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Meeting No. 7
Tuesday, May 16, 2006

The Legislative Committee on Bill C-2 met in a televised session at 9:04 a.m. this day, in Room 269, West Block, the Chair, David Tilson, presiding.


Members of the Committee present: Dean Del Mastro, Paul Dewar, Monique Guay, Hon. Marlene Jennings, Carole Lavallée, Tom Lukiwski, Pat Martin, Rob Moore, Brian Murphy, Hon. Stephen Owen, Daniel Petit, Pierre Poilievre, David Tilson and Alan Tonks.


In attendance: Library of Parliament: Katherine Kirkwood, Director; Kristen Douglas, Analyst; Nancy Holmes, Analyst.


Witnesses: Office of the Registrar of Lobbyists: Michael Nelson, Registrar of Lobbyists. Canadian Society of Association Executives: George Weber, Chairman of the Board. Government Relations Institute of Canada: Leo Duguay, President; Lisa Stilborn, Vice President. Office of the Registrar of Lobbyists: Bruce Bergen, Counsel. Canadian Society of Association Executives: Michael Anderson, President and Chief Executive Officer. Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada: Michèle Demers, President; Jamie Dunn, Negotiator. Public Service Alliance of Canada: John Gordon, President; Edith Bramwell, Legal advisor. Office of the Chief Electoral Officer: Jean-Pierre Kingsley, Chief Electoral Officer; Diane R. Davidson, Deputy Chief Electoral Officer and Chief Legal Counsel.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference of Thursday, April 27, 2006, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-2, An Act providing for conflict of interest rules, restrictions on election financing and measures respecting administrative transparency, oversight and accountability.

Pursuant to Standing Order 75(1), consideration of Clause 1 is postponed.

The Chair calls Clause 2.


Michael Nelson, George Weber and Leo Duguay made statements and answered questions.


By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the Committee extended the first session of questioning by 7 minutes.


At 9:53 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 9:57 a.m., the sitting resumed.


Michèle Demers made a statement and, with Jamie Dunn, answered questions.


John Gordon made a statement and, with Edith Bramwell, answered questions.


At 11:06 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:10 a.m., the sitting resumed.


Jean-Pierre Kingsley made a statement and answered questions.


At 11:48 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:50 a.m., the sitting resumed.

The Committee proceeded in camera to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

The Chair presented the Second Report from the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure which read as follows:


The Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure of the Legislative Committee on Bill C-2 has the honour to present its SECOND REPORT.

Your Subcommittee met on Monday, May 15, 2006, to consider the business of the Committee and agreed to the following list of witnesses, subject to availability:

Tuesday, May 16, A.M.

9:00 – 9:40
Government Relations Institute of Canada;
Registrar of Lobbyists;
George Weber, Chairman, Canadian Society of Association Executives

9:40 –10:40
Professional Institute of the Public Service (PIPS);
Public Service Alliance of Canada (PSAC)

10:40 – 11:40
Elections Canada – Chief Electoral Officer

Tuesday, May 16, P.M.

3:30 – 4:10 Ethics Commissioner

4:10 – 4:50 Robert Marleau

4:50 – 5:30 Maria Barados, President, Public Service Commission

Wednesday, May 17, P.M.

3:30 – 4:10
Assembly of First Nations, Phil Fontaine

4:10 – 4:50
Assembly of First Nations of Quebec and Labrador;
Makivik Corporation;
Quebec Native Women;
Aboriginal Financial Officers Association

Thursday, May 18, A.M.

9:00 – 10:30
John Reid, Information Commissioner

Tuesday, May 30, A.M.

9:00 – 9:40
Privacy Commissioner

9:40 – 10:20
Directors of all four major political parties

10:20 – 11:40
Canadian Federation of Students;
Professional Association of Foreign Service Officers;
Association of Canadian Financial Officers;
Association of Professional Executives of the Public Service of Canada;
Canadian Association of Professional Employees;
National Union of Public and General Employees;
Canadian Union of Postal Workers;
Confédération des syndicats nationaux;
Union of Canadian Correctional Officers;
Canadian Union of Public Employees

Tuesday, May 30 – P.M.

3:30 – 4:10
Deputy Minister of Procurement Public Works and Government Services

4:10 – 4:50
Ken Rubin
David Gollob

4:50 - 5:30
National Arts Centre
Public Sector Pension Investment Board
Via Rail Canada
Atomic Energy Canada

Wednesday, May 31, P.M.

3:30 – 4:10
TD Bank, Don Drummond, Chief Economist
Bank of Montreal, Tim O’Neill, Former Chief Economist

4:10 – 4:50
Peter Aucoin C.E.S. Franks

4:50 – 5:30
Donald Savoie, Professor, University of Moncton
Arthur Kroeger
Paul Thomas

Thursday, June 1, A.M.

9:00 – 9:40
René Villemure, Chair, Institut Québécois d’éthique
Pierre F. Côté, Former Chief Electoral Officer of Québec
Kenneth Kernaghan, Chair, Working Group of Disclosure of Wrongdoing, Professor of Political Science and Management, Brock University

9:40 – 10:20
Gwyn Morgan, Chairperson of the New Public AppointmentsCommission

10:20 – 11:00.
ADM for Criminal Prosecution Department of Justice
Bob Gillan, ADM for Prosecution, Government of B.C.

11:00 – 11:40
David Zussman, “Janislowsky Chair”, Public Sector Management, University of Ottawa
Denis Saint-Martin, Professor, University of Montréal

Respectfully submitted
David Tilson


It was agreed, — That the report of the Subcommittee be concurred in.


It was agreed, — That the Public Service Staff Relations Board be invited to appear.


It was agreed, — That the following organizations: Canada Foundation for Innovation, Canada Millennium Scholarship Foundation, Canada Health Infoway, Canadian Foundation for Sustainable Development, Genome Canada, Canadian Health Services Research Foundation and the Forum of Federations, be invited to appear.


At 12:05 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


Miriam Burke
Clerk of the Committee

2006-05-18 4:05 p.m.