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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting No. 3

Thursday, October 21, 2004

The Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills Development, Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met at 11:03 a.m. this day, in Room 209 West Block, the Chair, Raymonde Folco, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Peter Adams, Eleni Bakopanos, Jean-Claude D'Amours, Barry Devolin, Raymonde Folco, Paul Forseth, Christiane Gagnon, Ed Komarnicki, Tony Martin, Mario Silva and Peter Van Loan.

Acting Members present: Alain Boire for Yves Lessard and Alexa McDonough for Tony Martin.

Associate Members present: Alexa McDonough.

Other Members present: Michel Guimond.

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Chantal Collin, Analyst ; Kevin Kerr, Analyst.

Witnesses: Justice Canada: Suzie Beaulieu, Counsel, SDC/HRSDC Legal Services. Department of Human Resources and Skills Development: Lenore Burton, Director General, Learning and Literacy Directorate; Marc LeBrun, Director, Canada Education Savings Grant Program. Department of Finance: Lise Potvin, Senior Chief, Personal Income Tax Division. Department of Human Resources and Skills Development: Marie-Josée Thivierge, Assistant Deputy Minister, Human Investment Programs. Department of Finance: David Wurtele, Senior Tax Policy Officer, Defered Income Plans.

In accordance with its Order of Reference dated October 14 2004 in relation to Bill C-5, An Act to provide financial assistance for post-secondary education savings, the Committee proceeded to a briefing session.

Marie-Josée Thivierge made an opening statement statements and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

At 12:05, the sitting was suspended.

At 12:13, the sitting resumed.

It was agreed, — That, in the future, an application form be available for the Centennial Flame Research Award.

It was agreed, — That Mr. David J. Hains be the recipient of the 2004 Centennial Flamme Research Award.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

It was agreed, — That the Steering Committee will meet Thursday October 26, 2004 to select the witnesses for the study on Bill C-5.

It was agreed, — That the Canadian Federation of Students, the «Fédération étudiante universitaire du Québec (FEUQ)», the Canadian Association of University Teachers, the «Fédération québécoise des professeurs et professeures d'université» and the Canadian Alliance of Student Association be invited to appear Thursday October 28th, 2004 on Bill C-5.

It was agreed, — That «Pursuant to Standing Order 108 and the Order of reference contained in the address in reply to the Speech from the Throne, the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities study the issue of the Employment Insurance Funds so that the money accumulated is only used for the Employment Insurance Program in the interest of workers and tax payers and that the Committee report back to the House of Commons by June 1, 2005».

That the motion be amended by adding after the words «interest of workers and tax payers» the words « by forming a sub-committee charge to undertake this study» and by stiking out the words «June 1, 2005» and subsituting the words « December 17, 2004»

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the following motion: « That the Human Resources, Skills Development, Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities Committee, in conformity with the intentions enounced in the Throne Speech voted and adopted on October 20th, 2004, study and recommend measures that would ensure that all future uses of the employment insurance program would only be for the benefit of workers and not for any other purpose, and report back to the House of Commons on December 17, 2004 at the latest» be withdrawn.

It was agreed, — That the meeting continue until 1:15 p.m

After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 7 NAYS: 3

The question being put on the main motion, as amended, it was unanimously agreed to.

At 1:17 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Danielle Bélisle
Clerk of the Committee

2005/03/01 4:25 p.m.