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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 72

Tuesday, March 18, 2003

10:00 a.m.



Prayers

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Orders in Council concerning certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

— P.C. 2003-242, P.C. 2003-243, P.C. 2003-244 and P.C. 2003-245. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-3-10. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

— P.C. 2003-236, P.C. 2003-237 and P.C. 2003-261. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-14-09. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)

— P.C. 2003-248. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-8-11. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

— P.C. 2003-259. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-4-09. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates)

— P.C. 2003-249. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-18-05. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

— P.C. 2003-252, P.C. 2003-253, P.C. 2003-254, P.C. 2003-255 and P.C. 2003-256. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-16-08. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

— P.C. 2003-235, P.C. 2003-246 and P.C. 2003-247. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-13-08. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— P.C. 2003-251. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-17-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)

— P.C. 2003-239, P.C. 2003-240 and P.C. 2003-241. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-24-08. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— No. 372-0922 concerning the income tax system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-34-04;

— Nos. 372-0943, 372-0995, 372-1011, 372-1033, 372-1040, 372-1048, 372-1066 and 372-1073 concerning the Canada Post Corporation. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-1-12;

— No. 372-0945 concerning pornography. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-25-20.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa—Vanier) , from the Standing Committee on Official Languages, presented the Third Report of the Committee (quorum). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-44.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 14) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre) , seconded by Mr. Godin (Acadie—Bathurst) , Bill C-410, An Act to amend the Food and Drugs Act (mandatory labelling for genetically modified foods), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

— by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-1206).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-118, Q-144, Q-148 and Q-149 on the Order Paper.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-13, An Act respecting assisted human reproduction, as reported by the Standing Committee on Health with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 13, 14, 16 to 18, 20 to 24, 26, 27, 40 and 47).


Group No. 2

Motion No. 13 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 29 and 30 on page 4 with the following:

    “(a) create a human clone by using any technique, or transplant a human clone into a human being or into any non-human life form or artificial device;”

Motion No. 14 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing line 32 on page 4 with the following:

    “purpose other than human reproduction”

Motion No. 16 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 35 and 36 on page 4 with the following:

    “(c) create an embryo from a cell or part”

Motion No. 17 of Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast) , seconded by Mr. Merrifield (Yellowhead) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by adding after line 5 on page 5 the following:

    “(d.1) experiment on or harvest an embryo;”

Motion No. 18 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 6 and 7 on page 5 with the following:

    “(e) perform any procedure or provide,”

Motion No. 20 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by adding after line 20 on page 5 the following:

    “(g.1) transplant a sperm, ovum, embryo or foetus of a human being into a non-human life form;”

Motion No. 21 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 21 and 22 on page 5 with the following:

    “(h) make use of any human reproductive”

Motion No. 22 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 27 to 31 on page 5 with the following:

    “life form;

    (j) create a hybrid for the purpose of reproduction, or transplant a hybrid into either a human being or a non-human life form; or

    (k) clone a human embryo for research or human reproductive purposes.”

Motion No. 23 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 27 to 31 on page 5 with the following:

    “life form;

    (j) create a hybrid for the purpose of reproduction, or transplant a hybrid into either a human being or a non-human life form; or

    (k) combine any part or any proportion of the human genome with any part of the genome of a non-human species.”

Motion No. 24 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 27 to 31 on page 5 with the following:

    “life form;

    (j) create a hybrid for the purpose of reproduction, or transplant a hybrid into either a human being or a non-human life form; or

    (k) cryogenically store embryos once ova storage techniques are perfected to at least the same survival rate of stored

Motion No. 26 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 28 and 29 on page 5 with the following:

    “(j) create a hybrid or transplant a hybrid into”

Motion No. 27 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13 be amended by adding after line 37 on page 5 the following new clause:

    “5.1 No person shall create human reproductive material by the process of parthenogenesis or a similar process.”

Motion No. 40 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13 be amended by adding after line 23 on page 7 the following new clause:

    “9.1 For greater certainty, therapeutic cloning, also referred to as “somatic cell nuclear transfer”, is prohibited.”

Motion No. 47 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , — That Bill C-13 be amended by deleting Clause 11.

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 2.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, at 5:30 p.m. today, when the Speaker puts all questions necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act (political financing), the bells to call in the Members shall not ring for more than 15 minutes.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-13, An Act respecting assisted human reproduction, as reported by the Standing Committee on Health with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 13, 14, 16 to 18, 20 to 24, 26, 27, 40 and 47).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 2.

The question was put on Motions Nos. 13, 14, 16, 17, 20, 22 to 24, 26, 27, 40 and 47 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.


Group No. 3

Ms. Bennett (St. Paul's) , seconded by Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre) , moved Motion No. 28, — That Bill C-13 be amended by deleting Clause 6.

Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre) , seconded by Mr. Tonks (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of the Environment) , moved Motion No. 29, — That Bill C-13, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 6 with the following:

    “such services, except for medical or legal counselling services received in support of informed consent.”

Ms. Bennett (St. Paul's) , seconded by Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre) , moved Motion No. 30, — That Bill C-13 be amended by deleting Clause 7.

Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Lee (Scarborough—Rouge River) , moved Motion No. 32, — That Bill C-13, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing line 26 on page 6 with the following:

    “for the purchase of an in vitro embryo, a foetus or any foetal tissue; or”

Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Lee (Scarborough—Rouge River) , moved Motion No. 33, — That Bill C-13, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 26 to 28 on page 6 with the following:

    “for the purchase of an in vitro embryo, or any part of one; or

    (b) sell, offer for sale or advertise for sale an in vitro embryo, or any part of one.”

Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Lee (Scarborough—Rouge River) , moved Motion No. 36, — That Bill C-13, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing line 28 on page 6 with the following:

    in vitro embryo, a foetus or any foetal tissue.”

Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Lee (Scarborough—Rouge River) , moved Motion No. 39, — That Bill C-13, in Clause 8, be amended by adding after line 16 on page 7 the following:

    “(4) A donor may not transfer to another person the ownership, or any of the rights or obligations of ownership, of an embryo or any other human reproductive material.”

Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Lee (Scarborough—Rouge River) , moved Motion No. 44, — That Bill C-13, in Clause 10, be amended by adding after line 38 on page 7 the following:

    “(4) No person shall, except in accordance with the regulations, adopt an embryo for the purposes of human reproduction.”

Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Lee (Scarborough—Rouge River) , moved Motion No. 45, — That Bill C-13, in Clause 10, be amended by adding after line 38 on page 7 the following:

    “(4) No person shall, except in accordance with the regulations and a licence, use human reproductive material or an embryo, or any part of one, for the purpose of providing education or training related to assisted human reproduction.”

Ms. Bennett (St. Paul's) , seconded by Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre) , moved Motion No. 46, — That Bill C-13 be amended by adding after line 38 on page 7 the following new clause:

    “10.1 (1) No person shall, except in accordance with the regulations, pay consideration to a female person to be a surrogate mother, offer to pay such consideration or advertise that it will be paid.

    (2) No person shall, except in accordance with the regulations, accept consideration for arranging for the services of a surrogate mother, offer to make such an arrangement for consideration or advertise the arranging of such services.

    (3) No person shall, except in accordance with the regulations, pay consideration to another person to arrange for the services of a surrogate mother, offer to pay such consideration or advertise the payment of it.

    (4) No person shall, except in accordance with the regulations, counsel or induce a female person to become a surrogate mother, or perform any medical procedure to assist a female person to become a surrogate mother, knowing or having reason to believe that the female person is under 21 years of age.

    (5) This section does not affect the validity under provincial law of any agreement under which a person agrees to be a surrogate mother. ”

Ms. Bennett (St. Paul's) , seconded by Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre) , moved Motion No. 49, — That Bill C-13 be amended by adding after line 7 on page 8 the following new clause:

    “11.1 (1) No person shall, except in accordance with the regulations, purchase, offer to purchase or advertise for the purchase of sperm or ova from a donor or a person acting on behalf of a donor.

    (2) No person shall, except in accordance with the regulations

    (a) purchase, offer to purchase or advertise for the purchase of an in vitro embryo; or

    (b) sell, offer for sale or advertise for sale an in vitro embryo.

    (3) No person shall, except in accordance with the regulations, purchase, offer to purchase or advertise for the purchase of a human cell or gene from a donor or a person acting on behalf of a donor, with the intention of using the gene or cell to create a human being or of making it available for that purpose.

    (4) In this section, “purchase” or “sell” includes to acquire or dispose of in exchange for property or services. ”

Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre) , seconded by Mr. Tonks (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of the Environment) , moved Motion No. 51, — That Bill C-13, in Clause 12, be amended by adding after line 22 on page 8 the following:

    “(3) No person shall reimburse a surrogate mother for a loss of work-related income incurred during her pregnancy, unless

    (a) a qualified medical practitioner certifies, in writing, that continuing to work may pose a risk to her health or that of the embryo or feotus; and

    (b) the reimbursement is made in accordance with the regulations and a licence.”

Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre) , seconded by Mr. Tonks (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of the Environment) , moved Motion No. 95, — That Bill C-13, in Clause 65, be amended by replacing lines 12 to 14 on page 30 with the following:

    “(e) for the purposes of subsection 12(1), respecting the reasonable expenditures that may be reimbursed under a licence;

    (e.1) for the purposes of subsection 12(3), respecting the reimbursement of a loss of income;”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 3.

Mr. Telegdi (Kitchener—Waterloo) , seconded by Ms. Torsney (Burlington) , moved the following amendment, — That Motion No. 46 be amended by adding in Clause 10.1(1), (2), (3) and (4) after the words “except in accordance with the regulations” the following:

“and a licence”

Mr. Telegdi (Kitchener—Waterloo) , seconded by Ms. Torsney (Burlington) , moved the following amendment, — That Motion No. 49 be amended by adding in Clause 11.1(1), (2) and (3) after the words “except in accordance with the regulations” the following:

“and a licence”

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 3.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Vacancies

The Speaker informed the House that a vacancy had occurred in the representation in the House of Commons, for the Electoral District of Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière, in the Province of Quebec, by reason of the resignation of Mr. Dubé, and that, pursuant to paragraph 25(1)(b) of the Parliament of Canada Act, he had addressed, earlier today, his warrant to the Chief Electoral Officer for the issue of a writ for the election of a member to fill the vacancy.

Government Orders

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Transport of Bill C-26, An Act to amend the Canada Transportation Act and the Railway Safety Act, to enact the VIA Rail Canada Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts.

Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Transport.

Debate arose thereon.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in relation to its study on long-term care for veterans, the Subcommittee on Veterans Affairs of the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs be authorized to travel to Eastern Canada from March 31 to April 4, 2003, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.


By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in relation to its study of the Great Lakes and the St-Lawrence Seaway System, a group comprised of five government Members and one member of each of the opposition parties of the Subcommittee on Marine Transportation of the Standing Committee on Transport be authorized to travel to Sarnia, Ontario, in April 2003, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Subcommittee.


By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in relation to its study of the Great Lakes and the St-Lawrence Seaway System, a group comprised of five government Members and one member of each of the opposition parties of the Subcommittee on Marine Transportation of the Standing Committee on Transport be authorized to travel to Chicago in April 2003, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Subcommittee.


By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in relation to its examination in view of strengthening economic relations between Canada and Asia-Pacific, a group of nine members of the Subcommittee on International Trade, Trade Disputes and Investment of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade be authorized to travel to the Asia-Pacific Region from May 2 to 17, 2003, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development) , — That Bill C-26, An Act to amend the Canada Transportation Act and the Railway Safety Act, to enact the VIA Rail Canada Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Transport.

The debate continued.


Pursuant to Order made Monday, March 17, 2003, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , — That Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act (political financing), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on the amendment of Mr. Harper (Calgary Southwest) , seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“this House decline to give second reading to Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act, because the Bill shifts the sources of contributions to political parties from the voluntary actions of people and organizations to a mandatory imposition on all taxpayers, making political parties more dependent upon the state and less responsive to society.”.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

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(Division No. 54 -- Vote no 54)

YEAS: 48, NAYS: 197

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Bailey
Benoit
Breitkreuz
Burton
Cadman
Chatters
Day
Duncan
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Gallant
Goldring
Gouk
Grewal
Grey
Harper
Harris
Hill (Macleod)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Jaffer
Johnston
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Penson
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Vellacott
White (North Vancouver)
Williams -- 48
NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Asselin
Augustine
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barnes (London West)
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Beaumier
Bélair
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bevilacqua
Bigras
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonwick
Borotsik
Boudria
Bourgeois
Bradshaw
Brison
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Caplan
Cardin
Carignan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Chrétien
Clark
Coderre
Collenette
Comartin
Copps
Cotler
Crête
Cullen
Cuzner
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Desrochers
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Doyle
Drouin
Duceppe
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Folco
Fontana
Fournier
Frulla
Fry
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gaudet
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Guarnieri
Guay
Guimond
Harb
Harvard
Harvey
Hearn
Herron
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Karygiannis
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Laframboise
Laliberte
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
MacAulay
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Masse
Matthews
McCallum
McGuire
McLellan
McTeague
Ménard
Mills (Toronto--Danforth)
Minna
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Normand
Nystrom
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Paquette
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Plamondon
Pratt
Price
Proctor
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Robillard
Robinson
Rocheleau
Rock
Roy
Sauvageau
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Speller
St-Hilaire
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Stoffer
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Wappel
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 197
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Alcock
Bergeron
Bonin
Dromisky
Godfrey
Hubbard
Loubier
Marceau
McCormick
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Saada
Tremblay
Venne

Pursuant to Order made Monday, March 17, 2003, the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the motion of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , — That Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act (political financing), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

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(Division No. 55 -- Vote no 55)

YEAS: 200, NAYS: 50

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Asselin
Augustine
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Barnes (London West)
Beaumier
Bélair
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bevilacqua
Bigras
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonwick
Borotsik
Boudria
Bourgeois
Bradshaw
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Cardin
Carignan
Carroll
Casey
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Chrétien
Clark
Coderre
Collenette
Comartin
Copps
Cotler
Crête
Cullen
Cuzner
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Desrochers
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Doyle
Drouin
Duceppe
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Folco
Fontana
Fournier
Frulla
Fry
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gaudet
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Guarnieri
Guay
Guimond
Harb
Harvard
Harvey
Hearn
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Karygiannis
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Laframboise
Laliberte
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
MacAulay
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Masse
Matthews
McCallum
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Ménard
Mills (Toronto--Danforth)
Minna
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Normand
Nystrom
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Paquette
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Plamondon
Pratt
Price
Proctor
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Robillard
Robinson
Rocheleau
Rock
Roy
Sauvageau
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Speller
St-Hilaire
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Stoffer
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Wappel
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 200
NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Bailey
Benoit
Breitkreuz
Brison
Burton
Cadman
Chatters
Day
Duncan
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Gallant
Goldring
Gouk
Grewal
Grey
Harper
Harris
Herron
Hill (Macleod)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Jaffer
Johnston
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Penson
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Vellacott
White (North Vancouver)
Williams -- 50
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Alcock
Bergeron
Bonin
Dromisky
Godfrey
Hubbard
Loubier
Marceau
McCormick
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Saada
Tremblay
Venne

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

DEFERRED RECORDED DIVISIONS

Government Orders

Pursuant to Order made Thursday, February 27, 2003, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Industry) , seconded by Mr. Thibault (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) , — That Bill C-15, An Act to amend the Lobbyists Registration Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

+-

(Division No. 56 -- Vote no 56)

YEAS: 162, NAYS: 88

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barnes (London West)
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Beaumier
Bélair
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonwick
Borotsik
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brison
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Carignan
Carroll
Casey
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Clark
Coderre
Collenette
Copps
Cotler
Cullen
Cuzner
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Doyle
Drouin
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Folco
Fontana
Frulla
Fry
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Guarnieri
Harb
Harvard
Harvey
Hearn
Herron
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Karygiannis
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Laliberte
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lincoln
MacAulay
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
McCallum
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Mills (Toronto--Danforth)
Minna
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Normand
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Pratt
Price
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Robillard
Rock
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Wappel
Wayne
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 162
NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott
Ablonczy
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Asselin
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bailey
Benoit
Bigras
Blaikie
Bourgeois
Breitkreuz
Burton
Cadman
Cardin
Chatters
Comartin
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Day
Desrochers
Duceppe
Duncan
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Fournier
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gallant
Gaudet
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Goldring
Gouk
Grewal
Grey
Guay
Guimond
Harper
Harris
Hill (Macleod)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Jaffer
Johnston
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lill
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Masse
Ménard
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Nystrom
Paquette
Penson
Plamondon
Proctor
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Robinson
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
St-Hilaire
Stinson
Stoffer
Strahl
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Vellacott
Wasylycia-Leis
White (North Vancouver)
Williams -- 88
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Alcock
Bergeron
Bonin
Dromisky
Godfrey
Hubbard
Loubier
Marceau
McCormick
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Saada
Tremblay
Venne

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


Pursuant to Order made Friday, February 28, 2003, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) , seconded by Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , — That Bill C-2, An Act to establish a process for assessing the environmental and socio-economic effects of certain activities in Yukon, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

+-

(Division No. 57 -- Vote no 57)

YEAS: 202, NAYS: 48

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Asselin
Augustine
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Barnes (London West)
Beaumier
Bélair
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bevilacqua
Bigras
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonwick
Borotsik
Boudria
Bourgeois
Bradshaw
Brison
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Cardin
Carignan
Carroll
Casey
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Chrétien
Clark
Coderre
Collenette
Comartin
Copps
Cotler
Crête
Cullen
Cuzner
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Desrochers
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Doyle
Drouin
Duceppe
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Folco
Fontana
Fournier
Frulla
Fry
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gaudet
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Guarnieri
Guay
Guimond
Harb
Harvard
Harvey
Hearn
Herron
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Karygiannis
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Laframboise
Laliberte
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
MacAulay
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Masse
Matthews
McCallum
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Ménard
Mills (Toronto--Danforth)
Minna
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Normand
Nystrom
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Paquette
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Plamondon
Pratt
Price
Proctor
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Robillard
Robinson
Rocheleau
Rock
Roy
Sauvageau
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Speller
St-Hilaire
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Stoffer
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Wappel
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 202
NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Bailey
Benoit
Breitkreuz
Burton
Cadman
Chatters
Day
Duncan
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Gallant
Goldring
Gouk
Grewal
Grey
Harper
Harris
Hill (Macleod)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Jaffer
Johnston
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Penson
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Vellacott
White (North Vancouver)
Williams -- 48
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Alcock
Bergeron
Bonin
Dromisky
Godfrey
Hubbard
Loubier
Marceau
McCormick
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Saada
Tremblay
Venne

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


Pursuant to Order made Friday, February 28, 2003, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) , seconded by Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of Natural Resources) , — That Bill C-6, An Act to establish the Canadian Centre for the Independent Resolution of First Nations Specific Claims to provide for the filing, negotiation and resolution of specific claims and to make related amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

+-

(Division No. 58 -- Vote no 58)

YEAS: 153, NAYS: 97

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barnes (London West)
Beaumier
Bélair
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonwick
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Carignan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Coderre
Collenette
Copps
Cotler
Cullen
Cuzner
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Drouin
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Folco
Fontana
Frulla
Fry
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Guarnieri
Harb
Harvard
Harvey
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Karygiannis
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Laliberte
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lincoln
MacAulay
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
McCallum
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Mills (Toronto--Danforth)
Minna
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Normand
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Pratt
Price
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Robillard
Rock
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Wappel
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 153
NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott
Ablonczy
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Asselin
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bailey
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Benoit
Bigras
Blaikie
Borotsik
Bourgeois
Breitkreuz
Brison
Burton
Cadman
Cardin
Casey
Chatters
Clark
Comartin
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Day
Desrochers
Doyle
Duceppe
Duncan
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Fournier
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gallant
Gaudet
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Goldring
Gouk
Grewal
Grey
Guay
Guimond
Harper
Harris
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Macleod)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Jaffer
Johnston
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lill
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Masse
Ménard
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Nystrom
Paquette
Penson
Plamondon
Proctor
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Robinson
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
St-Hilaire
Stinson
Stoffer
Strahl
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Vellacott
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
White (North Vancouver)
Williams -- 97
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Alcock
Bergeron
Bonin
Dromisky
Godfrey
Hubbard
Loubier
Marceau
McCormick
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Saada
Tremblay
Venne

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Ways and Means Proceedings

Pursuant to Order made Thursday, February 27, 2003, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , — That this House approves in general the budgetary policy of the Government. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 2)

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

-

(Division No. 59 -- Vote no 59)

YEAS: 153, NAYS: 97
(See list under Division No. 58)

Private Members' Business

At 6:10 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Herron (Fundy—Royal) , seconded by Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre) , moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider eliminating the parental contribution standard from the Canada Student Loan program. (Private Members' Business M-205)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

Adjournment Proceedings

At 7:10 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

At 7:20 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).