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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 5

Friday, October 4, 2002

10:00 a.m.



Prayers

Statement by the Speaker

The Speaker ruled on Government Business No. 2 and directed that the issues relating to (a) adducing committee evidence and reinstating government bills from the previous session and (b) re-establishing a special committee on the non-medical use of drugs be grouped for debate and voted on separately and the issue relating to empowering the Standing Committee on Finance to travel be treated as a stand-alone motion to be debated and voted on separately.

Government Orders

Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Pagtakhan (Minister of Veterans Affairs) , moved, — That, in order to provide for the resumption and continuation of the business of the House begun in the previous Session of Parliament it is ordered:

1. That any evidence adduced by any Standing or Special Committee on any matter not reported upon in the previous Session shall be deemed to have been laid upon the Table in the present Session;

2. That during the first thirty sitting days of the present Session of Parliament, whenever a Minister of the Crown, when proposing a motion for first reading of a public bill, states that the said bill is in the same form as a bill introduced by a Minister of the Crown in the previous Session, if the Speaker is satisfied that the said bill is in the same form as at prorogation, notwithstanding Standing Order 71, the said bill shall be deemed in the current Session to have been considered and approved at all stages completed at the time of prorogation of the previous Session. (Government Business No. 2A)

Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Pagtakhan (Minister of Veterans Affairs) , moved, — That, in order to provide for the resumption and continuation of the business of the House begun in the previous Session of Parliament it is ordered:

That a special committee of the House be appointed to consider the factors underlying or relating to the non-medical use of drugs in Canada and make recommendations with respect to the ways and means by which the government can act, alone or in its relations with governments at other levels, in the reduction of the dimensions of the problems involved in such use;

That the membership of the committee be the same as the membership of the Special Committee on Non-Medical Use of Drugs at the time of prorogation of the First Session of the present Parliament, provided that substitutions may be made from time to time, if required, in the manner provided for in Standing Order 114(2);

That the committee shall have all of the powers granted to Standing Committees in Standing Order 108; and

That the committee shall present its final report no later than November 22, 2002. (Government Business No. 2B)

Pursuant to the decision made by the Speaker earlier today, debate arose on the motions.

Mr. Hill (Macleod) , seconded by Mrs. Skelton (Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar) , moved the following amendment, — That motion No. 2A be amended by adding after the words “prorogation of the previous session” the following:

“provided that Bill C-15B and C-5, introduced in the previous session, be excluded from this process.”.

Debate continued on the motions.

Notices of Motions

Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) gave notice of intention to move at the next sitting of the House, pursuant to Standing Order 57, that, in relation to the consideration of Government Business Nos. 2A and 2B, the debate not be further adjourned.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Notes for an Address by the Honourable Don Boudria concerning “The Government's Fall Legislative Progam” (Newsmakers Breakfast National Press Club). — Sessional Paper No. 8530-372-1.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Ms. McLellan (Minister of Health) laid upon the Table, — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Third Report of the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food, “Registration of Pesticides and the Competitiveness of Canadian Farmers” (Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-154), presented to the House on Wednesday, May 8, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-372-154.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Ms. Bulte (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Canadian Heritage) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 371-0768, 371-0779, 371-0780, 371-0782 and 371-0789 concerning the Canada Post Corporation. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-1-03.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Ms. Bulte (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Canadian Heritage) laid upon the Table, — Report of the Lower Churchill Development Corporation for the year 2001. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-526-01.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Ms. Carroll (Barrie—Simcoe—Bradford) presented the Report of the Canadian delegation of the Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the Third Part of the 2002 Ordinary Session of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, held in Strasbourg, France, from June 24 to 28, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-372-51-01.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , seconded by Mr. Proctor (Palliser) , Bill C-207, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (volunteers), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , seconded by Mr. Proctor (Palliser) , Bill C-208, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (herbal remedies), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , seconded by Mr. Proctor (Palliser) , Bill C-209, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (expenses incurred by care-givers), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , seconded by Mr. Proctor (Palliser) , Bill C-210, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (amateur sport fees), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , seconded by Mr. Proctor (Palliser) , Bill C-211, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , one concerning the situation in the Middle East (No. 372-0067), one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0068) and one concerning pornography (No. 372-0069);

— by Mr. Gouk (Kootenay—Boundary—Okanagan) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0070);

— by Mr. Maloney (Erie—Lincoln) , three concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0071 to 372-0073);

— by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0074);

— by Mr. Tonks (York South—Weston) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0075);

— by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0076 and 372-0077), one concerning the protection of the environment (No. 372-0078) and one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 372-0079);

— by Ms. Bulte (Parkdale—High Park) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0080).

Application for Emergency Debate

Pursuant to Standing Order 52, Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre) asked leave to move the adjournment of the House for the purpose of discussing a specific and important matter requiring urgent consideration, namely, the farmers' situation in Western Canada.

The Speaker decided that the matter was proper to be discussed and, pursuant to Standing Order 52(9), directed that it be considered on Monday, October 7, 2002, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motions of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Pagtakhan (Minister of Veterans Affairs) ; (Government Business Nos. 2A and 2B)

    And of the amendment of Mr. Hill (Macleod) , seconded by Mrs. Skelton (Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar) .

The debate continued on the motions.

Motions

Mr. MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) , seconded by Mr. Keddy (South Shore) , moved, — That this House do now adjourn.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 2 -- Vote no 2)

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 51

YEAS -- POUR
Ablonczy
Benoit
Bigras
Blaikie
Brien
Burton
Clark
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Desrochers
Doyle
Elley
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Gallant
Goldring
Gouk
Grey
Guay
Harper
Harris
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hill (Macleod)
Hinton
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Laframboise
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Mayfield
Ménard
Meredith
Merrifield
Moore
Penson
Proctor
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Ritz
Skelton
Sorenson
Spencer
Stinson
Stoffer
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Tremblay -- 46
NAYS -- CONTRE
Allard
Assad
Augustine
Bélanger
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Blondin-Andrew
Boudria
Bryden
Bulte
Caccia
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Easter
Eggleton
Farrah
Folco
Godfrey
Goodale
Jennings
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Laliberte
Longfield
MacAulay
Macklin
Malhi
Maloney
Marcil
Matthews
McCallum
McLellan
Mitchell
Myers
Nault
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Pratt
Proulx
Redman
Robillard
Saada
Shepherd
St-Julien
Tirabassi
Tonks
Vanclief -- 51

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motions of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Pagtakhan (Minister of Veterans Affairs) ; (Government Business Nos. 2A and 2B)

    And of the amendment of Mr. Hill (Macleod) , seconded by Mrs. Skelton (Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar) .

The debate continued on the motions.

Adjournment

At 2:30 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until Monday at 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).