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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 169

Tuesday, April 16, 2002

10:00 a.m.



Prayers

Daily Routine Of Business

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the membership of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be modified as follows: Rick Borotsik to replace Jay Hill.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West--Nepean) , seconded by Mr. Regan (Halifax West) , Bill C-441, An Act to change the names of certain electoral districts, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Government Orders

In relation to the consideration at report stage of Bill C-5, An Act respecting the protection of wildlife species at risk in Canada, and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker removed Motion No. 120 from Group No. 3 and placed it in Group No. 5.


The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-5, An Act respecting the protection of wildlife species at risk in Canada, as reported by the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 4 (Motions Nos. 6, 16, 17, 20, 24, 25, 29, 72, 76, 114, 126, 127 and 130).


Group No. 4

Motion No. 6 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 2, be amended by deleting lines 42 to 44 on page 5.

Motion No. 16 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 26 to 33 on page 8 with the following:

    “implementation of action plans; and

    (b) coordinate the activities of the various governments represented on the Council relating to the protection of species at risk.”

Motion No. 17 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5 be amended by deleting Clause 7.1.

Motion No. 20 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5 be amended by adding after line 26 on page 9 the following:

    “8.1 The Minister may establish a committee, to be known as the National Aboriginal Committee on Species at Risk, consisting of six representatives of the aboriginal peoples of Canada appointed by the Minister based on recommendations from aboriginal organizations that the Minister considers appropriate. The role of the committee is to advise the Minister on the administration of this Act.”

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(3))

Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled "An Act respecting the protection of wildlife species at risk in Canada". That Bill C-5 be amended by adding after line 26 on page 9 the following:

    “8.1 The Minister may establish a committee, to be known as the National Aboriginal Committee on Species at Risk, consisting of six representatives of the aboriginal peoples of Canada appointed by the Minister based on recommendations from aboriginal organizations that the Minister considers appropriate. The role of the committee is to advise the Minister on the administration of this Act.”

Amendment to Motion No. 20 of Mr. Laliberte (Churchill River) , seconded by Mr. Caccia (Davenport) , — That Motion No. 20 be amended by replacing all the words after “The Minister” with the following:

    “shall establish a Council, to be known as the National Aboriginal Council on Species at Risk, consisting of six representatives of the aboriginal peoples of Canada selected by the Minister based upon recommendations from aboriginal organizations that the Minister considers appropriate. The role of the Council is to:

    (1) advise the Minister on the administration of this Act;

    (2) provide advice and recommendations to the Canadian Endangered Species Conservation Council.”

Motion No. 24 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 10.1, be amended by replacing line 10 on page 10 with the following:

    “son. A copy of the stewardship action plan must be included in the public registry.”

Motion No. 25 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 10.2, be amended by replacing lines 11 to 38 on page 10 with the following:

    “10.2 The stewardship action plan must include, but is not limited to, commitments to

    (a) regularly examine incentives and programs that support actions taken by persons to protect species at risk;

    (b) provide information and increase public awareness about species at risk;

    (c) share information about species at risk, including community and aboriginal traditional knowledge, with other governments and persons;

    (d) create awards and recognition programs;

    (e) provide information respecting programs related to stewardship agreements, land conservation easements and other such agreements; and

    (f) provide information relating to the technical and scientific support available to persons engaged in stewardship activities.”

Amendment to Motion No. 25 of Mr. Laliberte (Churchill River) , seconded by Mr. Caccia (Davenport) , — That Motion No. 25 be amended by replacing paragraph 10.2(c) with the following:

    “(c) methods for sharing information about species at risk, including community and aboriginal traditional knowledge, that respect, preserve and maintain knowledge and promote their wider application with the approval of the holders of such knowledge, with other governments and persons;”

Motion No. 29 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 13, be amended by deleting lines 14 to 22 on page 12.

Motion No. 72 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 45, be amended by replacing lines 9 to 13 on page 27 with the following:

    “(2) If the amendment relates to the time for completing an action plan, the competent minister must provide reasons for the amendment and include a copy of the reasons in the public registry.

    (3) Sections 39 and 43 apply to amendments to a recovery strategy, with any modifications that the circumstances require.

    (4) Subsection (3) does not apply if the”

Motion No. 76 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 50, be amended by replacing lines 15 to 37 on page 29 with the following:

    “50. (1) The competent minister must include a proposed action plan in the public registry.

    (2) Within 60 days after the proposed action plan is included in the public registry, any person may file written comments with the competent minister.

    (3) Within 30 days after the expiry of the period referred to in subsection (2), the competent minister must consider any comments received, make any changes to the proposed action plan that he or she considers appropriate and finalize the action plan by including a copy of it in the public registry.

    (4) If an action plan is not finalized in the time set out in the recovery strategy, the competent minister must include in the public registry a summary of what has been prepared with respect to the plan.”

Motion No. 114 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 69, be amended by

(a) replacing lines 15 to 19 on page 38 with the following:

    “for the conservation of the species and the competent minister adopts the existing plan as the proposed management plan, he or she must include a copy of it in the public registry as the proposed management plan in relation to the”

(b) replacing lines 23 to 25 on page 38 with the following:

    “wildlife species into a proposed management plan for the species.”

Motion No. 126 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 123, be amended by replacing lines 33 to 37 on page 68 with the following:

    “filed in court and are available to the public; and

    (h) every report made under sections 126 and 128.”

Motion No. 127 of Mr. Burton (Skeena) , seconded by Mr. Mills (Red Deer) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 124, be amended by replacing line 39 on page 68 with the following:

    “SEWIC, may restrict the public release of any”

Motion No. 130 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 129, be amended by replacing lines 34 and 35 on page 70 with the following:

    “force, a committee of the House of”

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 4.

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker laid upon the Table, — First Report of the Auditor General of Canada to the House of Commons for the year 2002, pursuant to the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1994, c. 32, s. 2. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-64-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(e), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts)

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Government Orders

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) , seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development) , — That the amendment made by the Senate to Bill C-33, An Act respecting the water resources of Nunavut and the Nunavut Surface Rights Tribunal and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 271 -- Vote no 271)

YEAS: 218, NAYS: 8

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Alcock
Anderson (Victoria)
Assadourian
Augustine
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bagnell
Bailey
Barnes
Beaumier
Bélanger
Bellehumeur
Bennett
Benoit
Bergeron
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Bigras
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Borotsik
Boudria
Bourgeois
Brien
Brison
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Burton
Byrne
Caccia
Cadman
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Cardin
Carignan
Carroll
Casey
Casson
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Chatters
Clark
Coderre
Collenette
Copps
Cotler
Crête
Cullen
Cummins
Cuzner
Day
Desrochers
DeVillers
Dion
Doyle
Dromisky
Drouin
Dubé
Duceppe
Duncan
Duplain
Easter
Eggleton
Elley
Epp
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Fitzpatrick
Folco
Fournier
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gallant
Gallaway
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godfrey
Goldring
Goodale
Gouk
Graham
Grose
Guarnieri
Guay
Guimond
Harb
Harris
Harvey
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Macleod)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jaffer
Jennings
Johnston
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Laframboise
Laliberte
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lastewka
Lebel
Leung
Lincoln
Longfield
Loubier
Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands)
MacAulay
MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough)
Macklin
Malhi
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
Mayfield
McCallum
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Mills (Toronto--Danforth)
Mitchell
Moore
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Normand
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Obhrai
Pallister
Paquette
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Penson
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Picard (Drummond)
Pillitteri
Pratt
Proulx
Provenzano
Rajotte
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Reid (Lanark--Carleton)
Reynolds
Richardson
Ritz
Robillard
Rocheleau
Rock
Roy
Saada
Sauvageau
Savoy
Scherrer
Schmidt
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Skelton
Solberg
Speller
Spencer
St-Hilaire
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Stinson
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Tirabassi
Toews
Tonks
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Vellacott
Venne
Wappel
Wayne
Whelan
Wilfert
Williams
Wood -- 218
NAYS -- CONTRE
Blaikie
Comartin
Desjarlais
Godin
Lill
Nystrom
Proctor
Wasylycia-Leis -- 8
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Bellemare
Bonwick
Dalphond-Guiral
Fontana
Maloney
Marceau
Ménard
Owen
Pagtakhan
Perron
Plamondon
Torsney
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)
Volpe


The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-5, An Act respecting the protection of wildlife species at risk in Canada, as reported by the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 4 (Motions Nos. 6, 16, 17, 20, 24, 25, 29, 72, 76, 114, 126, 127 and 130).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 4.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in relation to its studies on North American relations and security and the agenda for the June 2002 G8 meeting, the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade be authorized to travel and hold hearings in two groups in Western Canada and Ontario, from May 5 to May 10, 2002, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.


By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the Special Committee on non-medical use of drugs be authorized to travel to and hold hearings in Edmonton and Saskatoon from April 28 to May 3, 2002, in relation to its mandate, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee;

That four members of the Special Committee on non-medical use of drugs be authorized to travel to participate in the IDEAS Conference in Vancouver from May 1 to May 3, 2002, in relation to its mandate, and that one staff person do accompany the members;

That the Special Committee on non-medical use of drugs be authorized to travel to New York and Washington, DC, from June 2 to June 6, 2002, for meetings with officials from the United Nations, American Drug Enforcement Agencies and independent agencies, in relation to its mandate, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee; and

That the Special Committee on non-medical use of drugs be authorized to travel to Switzerland, Germany and The Netherlands from June 14 to June 22, 2002, for meetings with European officials, in relation to its mandate, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.

Private Members' Business

At 5:41 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Abbott (Kootenay--Columbia) , seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island) , moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should draft legislation deleting sections 30.8(8) and 30.9(6) of the Copyright Act. (Private Members' Business M-431)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

Messages from the Senate

A Message was received from the Senate as follows:

— ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has united with that House by adopting the following Address:

RESOLVED: That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty the Queen in the following words:

    TO THE QUEEN’S MOST EXCELLENT MAJESTY:

    MOST GRACIOUS SOVEREIGN:

    We, the Senate of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to express our deep and heartfelt sympathy in the great sorrow which Your Majesty has suffered by the loss of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, and to offer to Your Majesty our most sincere condolences.

    The affection in which the people of Canada held Her Majesty was inspired by Her Majesty’s selfless devotion to public service to the Commonwealth and to Canada in particular. Her Majesty’s attachment to Canada was manifested in Her service as Colonel-in-Chief of three Canadian regiments, Her patronage of a variety of Canadian charities and other organizations, and Her many visits to Canada beginning in 1939, when she accompanied His Majesty King George VI.

    We assure Your Majesty that Canadians will ever hold in affectionate and grateful remembrance the love which Queen Elizabeth inspired in all peoples of this land. Our prayers for Queen Elizabeth, and for the Royal Family, are joined with those of all Canadians.

    IT WAS ALSO ORDERED: That the said Address be engrossed; and

    That the Honourable the Speaker of the Senate do sign the said Address to Her Most Excellent Majesty the Queen on behalf of the Senate, and that the said Address be presented to Her Excellency the Governor General by the Honourable the Speaker of the Senate.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) — Reports of the Canada Port Authorities for the year ended December 31, 2001, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-371-611-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

Adjournment Proceedings

At 6:42 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 6:50 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).