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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

(TEXT)

Meeting No. 40

Tuesday, October 6, 1998

 

The Standing Committee on Public Accounts met in camera at 3:35 p.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chair, John Williams, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Serge Cardin, John Finlay, Ivan Grose, Mac Harb, Steve Mahoney, Philip Mayfield, Lynn Myers, Gilles-A. Perron, Beth Phinney, Jerry Pickard and John Williams.

In attendance: From the Library of Parliament: Jean Dupuis and Brian O'Neal, Research Officers.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(e), the Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters relating to the future business of the Committee.

The Chair presented the Seventh Report of the Sub-committee on Agenda and Procedure which read as follows:

The Sub-committee on Agenda and Procedure of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts met on Thursday, October 1st, 1998 and agreed to recommend the following:

1. That the Committee hold meetings on the following matters:

(1) the four (4) Draft Reports respecting subjects on which the Committee held meetings with witnesses before the summer recess;

(2) Chapter 12 of the April and October 1997 Report of the Auditor General Of Canada (Information Technology: Preparedness for Year 2000);

(3) Chapter 10 (Canadian Human Rights Commission - Human Rights Tribunal Panel) of the September 1998 Report of the Auditor General;

(4) Chapter 14 (Indian and Northern Affairs Canada – Comprehensive Land Claims) of the September 1998 Report;

(5) Chapter 16 (Management of the Social Insurance Number) of the September 1998 Report of the Auditor General;

(6) Chapter 18 (The Financial Information Strategy: A Key Ingredient in Getting Government Right) of the September 1998 Report of the Auditor General; and

(7) if time permits, Chapter 13 (National Energy Board) of the September 1998 Report of the Auditor General.

2. That a Sub-committee composed of the Chair, two (2) government members and one (1) opposition member be struck to consider and report back to the Committee regarding the advisability of establishing a Sub-committee to hold meetings and prepare a draft report on the need to create an international standard for public-sector financial reporting.

  1. That the Chair of the Committee be authorized to seek the authority and the necessary funds to permit six (6) members of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, including three (3) members from the government and three (3) members from the opposition, and two (2) staff persons of the Committee to travel to Canberra and Perth, Australia to attend the Fifth Biennial Conference of the Australasian Council of Public Accounts Committees to be held in Perth, Western Australia, in February 1999. 

4. That, further to the responses received, during the summer, from various departments regarding the 1997 Reports of the Auditor General, the Chair of the Committee write letters to certain departments whose responses are considered insufficient and that the draft of the letters be distributed to the members of the Steering Committee for comments, one week prior to sending the letters.

Recommendations numbers 1 and 2 were agreed to.

Recommendation number 3 was amended by adding before the words "to attend", the words "for a period of up to two weeks".

Recommendation number 3, as amended, was agreed to.

Recommendation number 4 was agreed to.

The Seventh Report of the Sub-committee on Agenda and Procedure, as amended, was concurred in.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(e), the Committee proceeded to the consideration of a Draft Report respecting Chapter 30 (Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions - - Insurance and Pensions) of the December 1997 Report of the Auditor General of Canada.

The Committee considered the Draft Report and proposed amendments thereto.

It was agreed, - That the Draft Report, as amended, be concurred in.

It was agreed, - That the Chair be authorized to make such grammatical and editorial changes to the Report as may be necessary without changing the substance of the Report.

It was ordered, - That the Report, as amended, be presented by the Chair of the Committee to the House of Commons.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(e), the Committee proceeded to the consideration of a Draft Report respecting Chapter 6 (Population Ageing and Information for Parliament: Understanding the Choices) of the April 1998 Report of the Auditor General of Canada.

The Committee considered the Draft Report and proposed amendments thereto.

It was agreed, - That the Draft Report, as amended, be concurred in.

It was agreed, - That the Chair be authorized to make such grammatical and editorial changes to the Report as may be necessary without changing the substance of the Report.

It was ordered, - That the Report, as amended, be presented by the Chair of the Committee to the House of Commons.

At 5:20 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

 

 

 

Bernard G. Fournier
Clerk of the Committee