PRAYERS PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS At 11:03 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business. Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), seconded by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider the advisability of introducing ``Right to Know" legislation for the protection of firefighters and other public servants who, in the course of duty, are confronted by fires or disasters involving potentially harmful substances such as toxic chemicals. (Private Members' Business M-136) Debate arose thereon. Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the time provided for consideration of Private Members' Business expired and the Order was dropped from the Order Paper. GOVERNMENT ORDERS The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-68, An Act respecting firearms and other weapons, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs with amendments. Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions: Group No. 1 -- Motions Nos. 1, 10, 158, 167, 266 and 267. Group No. 2 -- Motions Nos. 2, 3, 5, 19, 20, 39, 40, 55, 58, 59, 107 and 145. Group No. 3 -- Motions Nos. 4, 6, 23, 24, 28, 29, 41, 42, 43, 45, 49, 50, 51, 52, 54, 56, 60, 69, 70, 71, 73, 76, 77, 78, 79, 81, 82, 85, 87, 88, 91, 92, 95, 97 to 101, 103 to 106, 108 to 113, 154, 170, 207, 215, 216, 218, 224 and 225. Group No. 4 -- Motions Nos. 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 35, 133, 134, 136 to 144, 146, 147, 163 to 166, 173, 174 to 206, 208, 210, 212, 213, 214, 220, 221, 222, 223, 228, 230 to 256, 259, 264 and 265. Group No. 5 -- Motions Nos. 13, 14, 38, 209, 211, 217, 219, 258, 260 and 262. Group No. 6 -- Motions Nos. 15, 16, 17, 18, 93 and 102. Group No. 7 -- Motions Nos. 21, 22, 33, 34, 36, 47, 57, 72, 74, 80, 89, 90, 171, 172, 227 and 261. Group No. 8 -- Motions Nos. 25, 27, 159, 160, 168, 169 and 226. Group No. 9 -- Motions Nos. 26, 37, 44, 46, 86, 94 and 96. Group No. 10 -- Motions Nos. 30, 31, 32, 114 to 132, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 155, 156, 157, 161, 162 and 263. Group No. 11 -- Motions Nos. 48, 53, 61 to 68, 75, 83, 84, 135, 229 and 257. Group No. 1 Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by replacing the words ``other weapons'' in the long title, on page 1, with the words ``related matters''. Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 10, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 4, be amended by adding after line 38, on page 4, the following: ``(a.1) generally to promote firearm safety and reduce firearm-related crime without jeopardising the reasonable uses for firearms in Canadian society or imposing an undue administrative and financial burden on Canadian taxpayers, including legitimate firearm owners;". Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 158, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 40, on page 58, with the following new Clause: ``112.1 (1) The Minister shall periodically conduct a review of this Act and the regulations and shall table a report on the review in the House of Commons within twelve months of commencing the review. (2) The first review must be conducted no later than December 31, 2003, and no more than five years may elapse between the tabling of the report on a review in the House of Commons and the commencement of a subsequent review." Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 167, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 33, on page 65, the following new Clause: ``129.1(1) Sections 3 to 129 expire on December 31, 1999 unless prior to that date, with respect to each section (a) the Auditor General has prepared and caused to be laid before Parliament a report on whether the section has been or will be a successful and cost-effective use of public funds to achieve an increase in public safety and a reduction in the incidence of violent crime involving the use of firearms, (b) the report of the Auditor General has been referred by the House to such committee as the house may designate for the purpose, (c) the committee has considered the report of the Auditor General and made a report to the House on the success and cost-effectiveness of the section and on the extent to which (i) public safety has been or will be increased or decreased, (ii) the incidence of crime related to the use of firearms has been or will be reduced or increased. (iii) a cost-effective use of public funds has been or will be made to achieve an increase in public safety or a reduction in the incidence of violent crime involving the use of firearms, (d) the committee has recommended to the House that the section should not expire, and (e) the House has concurred in the report of the committee. (2) Where a section is to expire as result of subsection (1), the Governor in Council may, by order, defer its expiry for a period not exceeding one year, if the section contains matters that do not relate to firearms control and the deferral is necessary in order for legislation to be proposed to Parliament to continue the other matters in force after the expiry of the section." Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), moved Motion No. 266, -- That Bill C-68, be amended by adding after line 28, on page 134, the following new Clause: ``185.1 (1) In 2000, no later than June 1, and every three years thereafter, a comprehensive review of the provisions of this Act shall be undertaken by such Committee of the House of Commons as the House may designate for that purpose. (2) The Committee shall review the effectiveness of the provisions of this Act and the use of firearms in the community in general and shall report to the House as to whether any provision of this Act or the regulations or any other legislation respecting firearms should be amended, augmented or repealed." Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), seconded by Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), moved Motion No. 267, -- That Bill C-68, be amended by adding after line 28, on page 134, the following new Clause: ``185.1 No later than January 1, 2001, the federal Minister shall prepare a report on the effectiveness of this Act in reducing the incidence of indictable offenses involving the use of a firearm and lay the report before the House of Commons." Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1. The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 10 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 158 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 167 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 266 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 267 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. Group No. 2 Motions Nos. 2, 3, 19, 20, 39, 40, 55, 58, 59 and 107 were not proceeded with. Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-68 be amended, in Clause 2, by adding after line 11, on page 4, the following: ``(3) For greater certainty, nothing in this Act shall be construed so as to abrogate or derogate from any existing aboriginal or treaty rights of the aboriginal peoples of Canada under section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 145, -- That Clause 107.1 of Bill C-68 be amended (a) by striking out, in the English version, line 23, on page 52, and substituting the following: ``may lawfully use it;" (b) by striking out line 28, on page 52, and substituting the following: ``obtains a registration certificate for it; or (c) a person who possesses a firearm and who is not the holder of a registration certificate for the firearm if the person (i) has borrowed the firearm, (ii) is the holder of a licence under which the person may possess it, and (iii) is in possession of the firearm to hunt or trap in order to sustain himself or herself or his or her family." The question was put on Motion No. 5 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 145 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. Group No. 3 Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 11, on page 4, the following new Clause: ``2.1 This Act does not apply in respect of (a) any firearm that is not a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm; or (b) any ammunition that is not prohibited ammunition." Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), seconded by Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), moved Motion No. 6, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 4, be amended (a) by replacing line 17, on page 4, with the following: ``4(1) The purpose of this Act is"; and (b) by adding after line 18, on page 5, the following: ``(2) Nothing is this Act is to be interpreted as prohibiting a person who is licensed to own a firearm from using a firearm, other than a restricted or prohibited weapon, that has been registered by the person pursuant to this Act, from (a) using the firearm for recreational or sustenance hunting, target shooting, trapping or other lawful activity, or (b) keeping the firearm in a collection of firearms." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 23, -- That the French version of Clause 10 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 36 to 41, on page 10, and line 1, on page 11, and substituting the following: ``10. Les articles 5, 6 et 9 s'appliquent aux transporteurs se livrant à des activités, notamment, de transport d'armes à feu, d'armes prohibées, d'armes à autorisation restreinte, de dispositifs prohibés ou de munitions prohibées reliant une province et une ou plusieurs autres provinces, ou débordant les limites d'une province, et, à cette fin, la mention du". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 24, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 3, on page 11, with the following: ``province." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 28, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing line 24, on page 14, with the following: ``registration certificate for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm unless the". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 29, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 14, be amended by replacing lines 27 to 32, on page 14, with the following: ``14. A registration certificate may be issued only for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm (a) that bears a serial number sufficient to distinguish it from other prohibited firearms or restricted firearms; or (b) that is described by one or more of the following characteristics: (i) its make, (ii) its model, (iii) the name of its manufacturer, (iv) the length of its barrel, (v) its calibre, or (vi) its assembly number." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 41, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 25. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 42, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 25, be amended by replacing lines 20 and 21, on page 18, with the following: ``or to a police force if the person informs a chief firearms officer of the transfer and complies with the". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 43, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 32 and 33, on page 18, with the following: ``proposed transfer of a prohibited firearm, restricted firearm, prohibited weapon, prohibited device, ammunition or". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 45, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 19 to 21, on page 19, with the following: ``(c) decide whether to approve the transfer or importation; and". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 49, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 17, on page 21, with the following: ``transfer of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, the Registrar may". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 50, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 17, on page 21, with the following: ``transfer of a firearm, a chief firearms officer may". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 51, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 23, on page 21, with the following: ``prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm to Her Majesty in right of Canada or". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 52, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 24, on page 21, with the following: ``province or to a police force, a chief firearms officer". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 54, -- That Clause 32 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 4 to 8, on page 22, and substituting the following: ``(i) has reasonable grounds to believe that the borrower holds a licence authorizing the borrower to possess that kind of firearm, and (ii) lends the borrower the registration certificate for the firearm, except in the case of a borrower who uses the firearm to hunt or trap in order to sustain himself or herself or his or her family; or". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 56, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 32, be amended by replacing line 7, on page 22, with the following: ``(ii) in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, lends the borrower the registration". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 60, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 33, be amended by replacing line 18, on page 22, with the following: ``(a) in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, the transferor". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 69, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 40, be amended, in the English version, by replacing lines 38 and 39, on page 26, with the following: ``same effect as a registration for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm for the period for which the confirma-". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 70, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 41, be amended by replacing lines 41 and 42, on page 26, with the following: ``41. A customs officer shall inform a chief firearms officer without delay of the exportation or". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 71, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 43, be amended by replacing lines 13 and 14, on page 27, with the following: ``(a) in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, holds the registration certificate for the prohibited firearm or the restricted firearm;". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 73, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 43, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 33, on page 27, with the following: ``(e) provides a chief firearms officer with the prescribed information and any other information required by that officer." Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 76, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 45, be amended by replacing lines 16 and 17, on page 28, with the following: ``(c) in the case of a restricted firearm or a restricted weapon,". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 77, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 45, be amended by replacing lines 28 to 30, on page 28, with the following: ``(f) provides a chief firearms officer with the prescribed information and other information required by that officer." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 78, -- That Clause 45 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 28 to 30, on page 28, and substituting the following: ``(f) provides the Registrar with the prescribed information and any other information reasonably required by the Registrar." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 79, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 47, be amended, in the English version, by replacing line 4, on page 29, with the following: ``certificate for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm for the period for". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 81, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 49, be amended by replacing lines 11 and 12, on page 29, with the following: ``49. A customs officer shall inform a chief firearms officer without delay of the exportation or". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 82, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 50, be amended by replacing line 15, on page 29, with the following: ``50. A chief firearms officer shall inform the member". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 85, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 52, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 13, on page 30, with the following: ``a chief firearms officer." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 87, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 53. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 88, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 53, be amended by replacing lines 32 and 33, on page 30, with the following: ``53. (1) A chief firearms officer may require an applicant for a". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 91, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 58, be amended by replacing lines 6 to 10, on page 32, with the following: ``58. A chief firearm officer is responsible for issuing registration certificates for prohibited firearms or restricted firearms and assigning firearms identification numbers to them and for issuing authorizations to export and authorizations to import." Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 92, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 59, be amended by replacing lines 26 to 28, on page 32, with the following: ``firearms, restricted firearms, cross-bows, prohibited weapons,". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 95, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 64, be amended by replacing line 39, on page 34, with the following: ``64. A registration certificate for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 97, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 65, be amended by replacing lines 28 to 31, on page 35, with the following: ``shall give notice of that decision in the prescribed form to the individual." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 98, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 67, be amended by replacing line 12, on page 36, with the following: ``67. A chief firearms officer may refuse to issue a". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 99, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 68, be amended by replacing line 39, on page 36, with the following: ``(2) A chief firearms officer may revoke an authoriza-". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 100, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 69, be amended (a) by replacing line 42, on page 36, with the following: ``69. (1) A chief firearms officer"; and (b) by replacing lines 2 to 5, on page 37, with the following: ``a prohibited firearm or restricted firearm held by an individual where the chief firearms officer decides under section 65 that the firearm is not being used for". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 101, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 70, be amended by replacing lines 21 to 25, on page 37, with the following: ``or authorization to transport, a registration certificate, authorization to export or authorization to import, the chief firearms officer shall give notice". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 103, -- That the French version of Clause 71 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 25, on page 38, and substituting the following: ``autres provinces, ou débordant les limites d'une province, et, à cette fin, la mention du". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 104, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 71, be amended by replacing lines 26 to 28, on page 38, with the following: ``province." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 105, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 72, be amended (a) by replacing line 30, on page 38, with the following: ``(a) a chief firearms officer" (b) by replacing line 20, on page 39, with the following: ``officer or provincial minister under". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 106, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 73, be amended (a) by replacing line 29, on page 39, with the following: ``chief firearms officer or provincial" (b) by replacing line 37, on page 39, with the following: ``firearms officer or provincial min-". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 108, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 74, be amended (a) by replacing line 11, on page 40, with the following: ``firearms officer, or provincial"; (b) by replacing lines 13 and 14, on page 40, with the following: ``(b) direct the chief firearms officer to issue a licence, registration". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 109, -- That Clause 75 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 31 to 42, on page 40, and substituting the following: ``(a) the Attorney General of Canada may appeal to the superior court against the order, if the order is directed to a chief firearms officer who was designated by the federal Minister, to the Registrar or to the federal Minister; or (b) the attorney general of the province may appeal to the superior court against the order, in the case of any other order made under paragraph 74(b) or (c)." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 110, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 75, be amended by replacing lines 33 and 34, on page 40, with the following: ``order, if the order is directed to a chief firearms officer who was". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 111, -- That Clause 76 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 19 to 23, on page 41, and substituting the following: ``(a) the Attorney General of Canada, in the case of an appeal of an order made under paragraph 74(a) confirming a decision of a chief firearms officer who was designated by the federal Minister, of the Registrar or of the federal Minister;". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 112, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 76, be amended by replacing line 22, on page 41, with the following: ``a chief firearms officer who". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 113, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 77, be amended by replacing lines 40 and 41, on page 41, with the following: ``(i) direct the chief firearms officer to issue a licence, registration". Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 154, -- That Bill C-68, be amended by adding after line 26, on page 57, the following New Clause: ``110.1 Notwithstanding section 2.1, the Governor in Council may make regulations that are applicable in respect of firearms that are not prohibited firearms or restricted firearms for the purpose of (a) establishing minimum age and safety criteria for purchasers of firearms; (b) establishing safe storage and handling standards for firearms; and (c) regulating the exportation and importation of firearms." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 170, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 29 to 31, on page 70. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 207, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 42, on page 87, with the following: ``a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm the serial number on which has been." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 215, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 37, on page 98, with the following: ``ly possess the firearm and, where the firearm is a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, a registration". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 216, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 21, on page 99, with the following: ``(b) in the case of a firearm, which is a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, a registration". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 218, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended in the English version by replacing line 37, on page 100, with the following: ``thing and, in the case of a seized firearm, which is a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, a" Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 224, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 44 and 45, on page 106, with the following: ``cate is, if certified as a true copy by a chief firearms officer, admissi-". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 225, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 39 to 46, on page 107, and lines 1 to 27, on page 108. Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 3. STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements. ORAL QUESTIONS Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions. DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS Presenting Reports from Committees Mr. Bélisle (La Prairie), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 12th Report of the Committee (Department of National Defence). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-126. Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response. A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 28, 33 and 35, which includes this Report) was tabled. Presenting Petitions Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), eighteen concerning the parole system (Nos. 351-3437 to 351-3454);

-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), two concerning the parole system (Nos. 351-3455 and 351-3456);

-- by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), one concerning censuses (No. 351-3457);

-- by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), sixteen concerning gun control (Nos. 351-3458 to 351-3473);

-- by Mr. Caccia (Davenport), one concerning immigration (No. 351-3474);

-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-3475 and 351-3476), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-3477) and one concerning abortion (No. 351-3478);

-- by Mr. MacDonald (Dartmouth), two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-3479 and 351-3480);

-- by Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi), two concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-3481 and 351-3482);

-- by Ms. Skoke (Central Nova), two concerning gun control (Nos. 351-3483 and 351-3484), one concerning abortion (No. 351-3485) and one concerning sentences in the Criminal Code (No. 351-3486);

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-3487);

-- by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay East), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-3488). Questions on Order Paper Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order of the House for a Return: Q-185 -- Mr. Caccia (Davenport) -- What is the total amount of federal public money, in 1995 dollars, that has been given to Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (AECL) since its inception? Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-351-185. GOVERNMENT ORDERS The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-68, An Act respecting firearms and other weapons, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs with amendments; And of the motions in Group No. 3 (Motions Nos. 4, 6, 23, 24, 28, 29, 41, 42, 43, 45, 49, 50, 51, 52, 54, 56, 60, 69, 70, 71, 73, 76, 77, 78, 79, 81, 82, 85, 87, 88, 91, 92, 95, 97 to 101, 103, 104, 105, 106, 108 to 113, 154, 170, 207, 215, 216, 218, 224 and 225). The debate continued. The question was put on Motion No. 4 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 6 and 154, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 23 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 24 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 28 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 29, 43, 49, 51, 60, 69, 71, 76, 79, 92, 95, 100, 207, 215, 216, 218 and 225, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 41 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 45 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 52, 70, 73, 77, 81, 82, 85, 91, 97, 98, 99, 101, 105, 106, 108, 113, 170 and 224, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 54 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 87 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 103 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 109 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 111 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. Group No. 4 Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 4, be amended (a) by replacing line 24, on page 4, with the following: ``under subsection 101.1(1) of this Act or subsection 92(1), 93(1) or:"; and ``(b) by replacing lines 31 and 32, on page 4, with the following ``constitute an offence under subsection 101.1(2) of this Act or subsection 92(2) or 93(1) of the Criminal". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 24 and 25, on page 4, with the following: ``under section 106 of this Act and subsection 95(1) of the Criminal Code,". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 33, on page 4, with the following: ``constitute an offence under section 106.1;". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 11, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 37 and 38, on page 5, with the following: ``offence under section 106.2 or 106.3 of this Act or subsection 99(1) or 100(1) of the Criminal Code; and". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 12, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 17 to 18, on page 5, with the following: ``wise constitute an offence under section 106.4 or 106.5 of this Act or subsection 103(1) of the Criminal Code." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 35, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 18, be amended by replacing lines 5 and 6, on page 16, with the following: ``sal in accordance with this Act,". Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), moved Motion No. 133, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 41, on page 50, the following new Clauses: ``101.1 (1) Subject to subsection (4) and section 98 of the Criminal Code, every person commits an offence who possesses a firearm, unless the person is the holder of (a) a licence under which the person may possess the firearm; and (b) a registration certificate for the firearm. (2) Subject to subsection (4) and section 98 of the Criminal Code, every person commits an offence who possesses a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, other than a replica firearm, or any prohibited ammunition, unless the person is the holder of a licence under which the person may possess it. (3) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) or (2) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable (a) for a first offence, to a fine not exceeding one thousand two hundred and fifty dollars and to a minimum fine of five hundred dollars; (b) for a second offence, to a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars and to a minimum fine of one thousand two hundred and fifty dollars; and (c) for a third or subsequent offence, to a fine of not more than two thousand dollars or to imprisonment for six months or to both. (4) Subsections (1) and (2) do not apply to (a) a person who possesses a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any prohibited ammunition while the person is under the direct and immediate supervision of a person who may lawfully possess it, for the purpose of using it in a manner in which the supervising person may lawfully use it; or (b) a person who comes into possession of a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any prohibited ammunition by the operation of law and who, within a reasonable period after acquiring possession of it, (i) lawfully disposes of it, or (ii) obtains a licence under which the person may possess it and, in the case of a firearm, a registration certificate for the firearms 101.11 (1) Where a peace officer believes on reasonable grounds that a person is in possession of a firearm in respect of which the person does not hold a registration certificate, the peace officer shall seize the firearm and may, for this purpose, search the person or a vehicle, in accordance with the provisions of the Criminal Code concerning search and seizure. (2) Any thing seized pursuant to subsection (1) shall be dealt with in accordance with sections 490 and 491 of the Criminal Code, subject to subsection (4). (3) A peace officer who seizes a firearm in accordance with subsection (1) shall give to the person who had possession of the firearm a notice in writing that the person shall obtain a registration certificate for the firearm within seven days of receiving the notice. (4) The firearm that was seized shall be returned to the person who is lawfully entitled to its possession where the person obtains a registration certificate for the firearm within the period of time set out in subsection (3). 101.2 (1) A person who has been convicted of an offence under paragraph 101.1(3)(a) or (b) is deemed not to have been convicted of a criminal offence. (2) An offence referred to in paragraph 101.1(3)(a) or (b) does not constitute an offence for the purposes of the Criminal Records Act. (3) For greater certainty, notwithstanding subsection (1), the provisions of the Criminal Code relating to summary conviction offences apply to an offence referred to in paragraph 101.1(3)(a) or (b). (4) For greater certainty, nothing in this section prevents the punishment to which a person might otherwise be lawfully sentenced on a conviction for an offence referred to in paragraph 101.1(3)(a) or (b). (5) Subject to subsection (6), every person is guilty of an offence who discloses to any person any record of a conviction for an offence referred to in paragraph 101.1(3)(a) or (b) or the existence of such a record or the fact of the conviction. (6) No person commits an offence under subsection (5) where that person discloses anything referred to in that subsection to a prescribed person for the purposes of allowing the prescribed person to determine whether a person found guilty of an offence under subsection 101.1(3) has been previously convicted of an offence under that subsection. (7) Every one is guilty of an offence who uses or authorizes the use of an application form for or relating to any of the following matters that contains a question that by its terms requires the applicant to disclose a conviction for an offence referred to in paragraph 101.1(3)(a) or (b): (a) employment in any department, as defined in section 2 of the Financial Administration Act; (b) employment by any Crown corporation, as defined in subsection 83(1) of the Financial Administration Act; (c) enrolment in the Canadian Forces; or (d) employment on or in connection with the operation of any work, undertaking or business that is within the legislative authority of Parliament." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 134, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 17, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``102.1 (1) Every person commits an offence who knowingly makes, before a peace officer, firearms officer or chief firearms officer, a false report or statement concerning the loss, theft or destruction of a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, any prohibited ammunition, an authorization, a licence or a registration certificate. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. (3) In this section, ``report" or ``statement" means an assertion of fact, opinion, belief or knowledge, whether material or not and whether admissible or not." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 136, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 28, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``104.1 (1) Subject to subsections (3) and (4), every person commits an offence who is an occupant of a motor vehicle in which the person knows there is a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, other than a replica firearm, or any prohibited ammunition, unless (a) in the case of a firearm, (i) the person or any other occupant of the motor vehicle is the holder of an authorization or a licence under which the person or other occupant may possess the firearm and, in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, transport the prohibited firearm or restricted firearm, (ii) the person had reasonable grounds to believe that any other occupant of the motor vehicle was the holder of an authorization or a licence under which that other occupant may possess the firearm and, in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, transport the prohibited firearm or restricted firearm, and (iii) the person had reasonable grounds to believe that any other occupant of the motor vehicle was a person who could not be convicted of an offence under this Act or any other Act of Parliament; and (b) in the case of a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any prohibited ammunition, (i) the person or any other occupant of the motor vehicle is the holder of an authorization or a licence under which the person or other occupant may transport the prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition, or (ii) the person had reasonable grounds to believe that any other occupant of the motor vehicle was (a) the holder of an authorization or a licence under which the other occupant may transport the prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition, or (b) a person who could not be convicted of an offence under this Act or any other Act of Parliament. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. (3) Subsection (1) does not apply to an occupant of a motor vehicle who, on becoming aware of the presence of the firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition in the motor vehicle, attempted to leave the motor vehicle, to the extent that it was feasible to do so, or actually left the motor vehicle. (4) Subsection (1) does not apply to an occupant of a motor vehicle where the occupant or any other occupant of the motor vehicle is a person who came into possession of the firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition by the operation of law." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 137, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 106, be amended by replacing lines 41 to 44, on page 51, with the following: ``106. (1) Every person commits an offence who (a) possesses a firearm, unless the person is the holder of a licence under which the person may possess the firearm and, where the firearm is a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, unless the person holds a registration certificate for that firearm; or (b) contravenes, in respect of a firearm, a condition of a licence, registration certificate or authorization held by the person. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) in the case of a first offence, is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction; (b) in the case of a subsequent offence, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 138, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 44, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``106.1 (1) Every person commits an offence who, without lawful excuse, possesses a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or prohibited ammunition and (a) does not hold a licence under which the person may possess it; or (b) contravenes a condition of a the licence or authorization held by the person. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 139, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 44, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``106.2 (1) Every person commits an offence who, without authorization under this Act or any other Act of Parliament or regulation made thereunder, transfers a firearm or ammunition. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 140, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 44, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``106.3 (1) Every person commits an offence who, without authorization under this Act or any other Act of Parliament or regulation made thereunder, transfers a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or prohibited ammunition. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 141, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 44, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``106.4 (1) Every person commits an offence who, without authorization under this Act or any other Act of Parliament or regulation made thereunder, imports or exports a firearm or ammunition. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 142, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 44, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``106.5 (1) Every person commits an offence who, without authorization under this Act or any other Act of Parliament or regulation made thereunder, imports or exports (a) a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or prohibited ammunition; or (b) a component or part designed exclusively for use in the manufacture of or assembly into automatic firearms. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 143, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 44, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``106.6 Any proceedings in respect of an offence under subsection 106.4(1) or 106.5(1) of this Act may be commenced at the instance of the Government of Canada and conducted by or on behalf of that government." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 144, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 44, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``106.7 Subsections 106(1) and 106.1(1) do not apply to (a) a person who possesses a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any prohibited ammunition while the person is under the direct and immediate supervision of a person who may lawfully possess it, for the purpose of using it in a manner in which the supervising person may lawfully use it; or (b) a person who comes into possession of a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any prohibited ammunition by the operation of law and who, within a reasonable period after acquiring possession of it, (i) lawfully disposes of it, or (ii) obtains a licence under which the person may possess it and, in the case of a firearm, a registration certificate for the firearm." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 146, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 10, on page 53, the following new Clause: ``108.1 (1) Every person commits an offence who (a) having lost a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, any prohibited ammunition, an authorization, a licence or a registration certificate, or having had it stolen from the person's possession, does not with reasonable despatch report the loss to a peace officer, to a firearms officer or a chief firearms officer; or (b) on finding a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any prohibited ammunition that the person has reasonable grounds to believe has been lost or abandoned, does not with reasonable despatch deliver it to a peace officer, a firearms officer or a chief firearms officer or report the finding to a peace officer, a firearms officer or a chief firearms officer. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 147, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 10, on page 53, the following new Clause: ``108.2 (1) Every person commits an offence who (a) after destroying any firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition, or (b) on becoming aware of the destruction of any firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition that was in the person's possession before its destruction, does not with reasonable despatch report the destruction to a peace officer, firearms officer or chief firearms officer. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 163, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 33, on page 65, the following new Clause: ``129.1 Where, in any proceedings for an offence under any of sections 106, 106.1. 106.2, 106.3, 106.4, 106.5 and 108.1, any question arises as to whether a person is the holder of an authorization, a licence or a registration certificate, the onus is on the accused do prove that the person is the holder of the authorization, licence or registration certificate." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 164, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 33, on page 65, the following new Clause: ``129.2 (1) In any proceedings under this Act or any other Act of Parliament, a document purporting to be an authorization, a licence or a registration certificate is evidence of the statements contained therein. (2) In any proceedings under this Act or any other Act of Parliament, a copy of any authorization, licence or registration certificate is, if certified as a true copy by the Registrar or a chief firearms officer, admissible in evidence and, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, has the same probative force as the authorization, licence or registration certificate would have had if it had been proved in the ordinary way." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 165, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 33, on page 65, the following new Clause: ``129.3 (1) A certificate purporting to be signed by an analyst stating that the analyst has analysed any weapon, prohibited device, ammunition, prohibited ammunition or explosive substance, or any part or component of such a thing, and stating the results of the analysis is evidence in any proceedings in relation to any of those things under this Act or under section 19 of the Export and Import Permits Act in relation to subsection 15(2) of that Act without proof of the signature or official character of the person appearing to have signed the certificate. (2) The party against whom a certificate of an analyst is produced may, with leave of the court, require the attendance of the analyst for the purposes of cross-examination. (3) No certificate of an analyst may be admitted in evidence unless the party intending to produce it has, before the trial, given to the party against whom it is intended to be produced reasonable notice of that intention together with a copy of the certificate. (4) For the purposes of this Act, service of a certificate of an analyst may be proved by oral evidence given under oath by, or by the affidavit or solemn declaration of, the person claiming to have served it. (5) Notwithstanding subsection (4), the court may require the person who appears to have signed an affidavit or solemn declaration referred to in that subsection to appear before it for examination or cross-examination in respect of the issue of proof of service." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 166, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 33, on page 65, the following new Clause: ``129.4 (1) The Governor in Council may, by order, declare for any purpose referred to in subsection (2) any period as an amnesty period with respect to any weapon, prohibited device, prohibited ammunition, explosive substance or component or part designed exclusively for use in the manufacture of or assembly into an automatic firearm. (2) An order made under subsection (1) may declare an amnesty period for the purpose of (a) permitting any person in possession of any thing to which the order relates to do anything provided in the order, including, without restricting the generality of the foregoing, delivering the thing to a peace officer, a firearms officer or a chief firearms officer, registering it, destroying it or otherwise disposing of it; or (b) permitting alterations to be made to any prohibited firearm, prohibited weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition to which the order relates so that it no longer qualifies as a prohibited firearm, a prohibited weapon, a prohibited device or prohibited ammunition, as the case may be. (3) No person who, during an amnesty period declared by an order made under subsection (1) and for a purpose described in the order, does anything provided for in the order, is, by reason only of the fact that the person did that thing, guilty of an offence under this Part. (4) Any proceedings taken under this Part against any person for anything done by the person in reliance of this section are a nullity." Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), moved Motion No. 173, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 8, on page 72, with the following: ``(3) For the purposes of sections 92 to 95, 99". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 174, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 8 and 9, on page 72, with the following: ``(3) For the purposes of sections 95, 99, 100, 103 and 117.03 of this Act and". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 175, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 5, on page 73, with the following: ``(b) a registration certificate for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm if". Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 176, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended (a) by replacing line 13, on page 73, with the following: ``who uses a firearm or an imitation firearm"; and (b) by replacing line 29, on page 73, with the following: ``using the firearm or imitation firearm." Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 177, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 19 and 20, on page 73, with the following: ``tent -- firearm), 272.1 (sexual assault with a weapon), 273 (aggravated sexual assault),". Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 178, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended (a) by deleting lines 30 to 39, on page 73; (b) by replacing line 2, on page 74, with the following: ``under subsection (1) is guilty of an"; (c) by replacing line 26, on page 74, with the following: ``offence under subsection (1) shall be"; and (d) by replacing lines 32 and 33, on page 74, with the following: ``the person for an offence under subsection (1)." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 179, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 34 to 47, on page 74, and lines 1 to 11, on page 75. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 180, -- That Bill C-68 in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 35, on page 75, with the following: ``under subsection (1) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years." Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), moved Motion No. 181, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 16 to 45, on page 76, and lines 1 to 10, on page 77. Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved Motion No. 182, -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 16, on page 76, and substituting the following: ``91. (1) Subject to subsections (4) and (5) and section". Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Culbert (Carleton -- Charlotte), moved Motion No. 183, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended (a) by replacing line 18, on page 76, with the following: ``possesses a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, unless the person is;" (b) by replacing lines 38 and 39, on page 76, with the following: ``(a) a person who possesses a prohibited firearm, a restricted firearm, a"; (c) by replacing line 14, on page 77, with the following: ``possesses a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm knowing that the person is"; (d) by replacing line 28, on page 78, with the following: ``prohibited firearm, a restricted firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted"; (e) by replacing line 8, on page 79, with the following: ``in which the person knows there is a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm,"; (f) by replacing lines 17 to 20, on page 79, with the following: ``may possess and transport the firearm,"; (g) by replacing lines 29 to 32, on page 79, with the following: ``possess and transport the firearm, and"; (h) by replacing line 26, on page 80, with the following; ``ing aware of the presence of the prohibited firearm, restricted firearm," (i) by replacing line 36, on page 80, with the following: ``of the prohibited firearm, restricted firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted"; (j) by replacing line 33, on page 98, with the following: ``(a) a person in possession of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm who"; and (k) by replacing line 4, on page 99, with the following: ``may seize the prohibited firearm, restricted firearm, prohibited weapon, re-". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 184, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 16 to 45, on page 76, and lines 1 to 11, on page 77. Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved Motion No. 185, -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by adding immediately after line 11, on page 77, the following: ``(5) Subsection (1) does not apply to a person who possesses a firearm that is neither a prohibited firearm nor a restricted firearm and who is not the holder of a registration certificate for the firearm if the person (a) has borrowed the firearm; (b) is the holder of a licence under which the person may possess it; and (c) is in possession of the firearm to hunt or trap in order to sustain the person or the person's family." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved Motion No. 186, -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 12, on page 77, and substituting the following: ``92. (1) Subject to subsections (4) and (5) and section". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 187, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 12 to 47, on page 77, and lines 1 to 23, on page 78. Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved Motion No. 188, -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 14, on page 78, and substituting the following: ``(5) Subsection (1) does not apply to a person who possesses a firearm that is neither a prohibited firearm nor a restricted firearm and who is not the holder of a registration certificate for the firearm if the person (a) has borrowed the firearm; (b) is the holder of a licence under which the person may possess it; and (c) is in possession of the firearm to hunt or trap in order to sustain the person or the person's family. (6) Where a person is charged with an". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 189, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 24 to 45, on page 78, and lines 1 to 4, on page 79. Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved Motion No. 190, -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 5, on page 79, and substituting the following: ``94. (1) Subject to subsections (3) to (5)". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 191, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 5 to 46, on page 79, and lines 1 to 38, on page 80. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 192, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 1 and 2, on page 80, with the following: ``95. (1) Subject to subsection (3), every person commits an offence who, in". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved Motion No. 193, -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by adding immediately after line 38, on page 80, the following: ``(5) Subsection (1) does not apply to an occupant of a motor vehicle where the occupant or any other occupant of the motor vehicle is a person who possesses a firearm that is neither a prohibited firearm nor a restricted firearm and who is not the holder of a registration certificate for the firearm if the person (a) has borrowed the firearm; (b) is the holder of a licence under which the person may possess it; and (c) is in possession of the firearm to hunt or trap in order to sustain the person or the person's family." Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 194, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 32 to 37, on page 81, with the following: ``under subsection (1) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years and to a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of three years." Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 195, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 38 to 40, on page 81. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 196, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 19, on page 82. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 197, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 20 to 43, on page 82, and lines 1 to 11, on page 83. Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), moved Motion No. 198, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended (a) by replacing lines 22 and 23, on page 82, with the following: ``subsection 101.1(1) of the Firearms Act or subsections 92(1), 93(1), 94(1) and 95(1) of this Act, possessed a firearm without a firearm"; and (b) by replacing lines 36 and 37, on page 82, with the following: ``the coming into force of any of subsection 101.1(1) of the Firearms Act or subsections 92(1), 93(1), 94(1) and 95(1) of this Act, possessed". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 199, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 11, on page 83. Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), moved Motion No. 200, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 2 and 3, on page 83, with the following: ``between the coming into force of subsection 101.1(1) of the Firearms Act or subsection 92(1) or 94(1) of this Act and the later of January". Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 201, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 3 to 9, on page 83, with the following: ``91(1), 92(1) or 94(1) and January 1, 1996, possesses a firearm that, as of that date, is not a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, shall be deemed for the purposes of that subsection to be, until December 31, 2000, the". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 202, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 7 to 21, on page 84. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 203, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 18 to 34, on page 85. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 204, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 28, on page 86. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 205, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 29 to 43, on page 86, and lines 1 to 5, on page 87. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 206, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 6 to 24, on page 87. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 208, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 43, on page 89, with the following: ``(5) Sections 114 to 117 apply in respect of". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 210, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 5, on page 91, with the following: ``(5) Sections 114 to 117 apply in respect of". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 212, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 15, on page 92, with the following: ``(7) Sections 114 to 117 apply in respect of". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 213, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 46, on page 93, and lines 1 to 13, on page 94. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 214, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 3 to 7, on page 96. Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved Motion No. 220, -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended (a) by adding immediately after line 9, on page 106, the following: ``(2) Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, but subject to section 117.1, no individual who is employed by a business as defined in subsection 2(1) of the Firearms Act that itself is the holder of a licence is guilty of an offence under this Act or the Firearms Act by reason only that the individual, in the course of the individual's duties or employment, possesses, manufactures or transfers, or offers to manufacture or transfer, a partially manufactured barrelled weapon that, in its unfinished state, is not a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person."; and (b) by renumbering the subsequent subclause and any cross-references thereto accordingly. Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved Motion No. 221, -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by adding immediately after line 21, on page 106, the following: ``(3) Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, but subject to section 117.1, no individual who is employed by a museum as defined in subsection 2(1) of the Firearms Act that itself is the holder of a licence is guilty of an offence under this Act or the Firearms Act by reason only that the individual, in the course of the individual's duties or employment, possesses or transfers a firearm that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm if the individual has been trained to handle and use such a firearm. (4) Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, but subject to section 117.1, no individual who is employed by a museum as defined in subsection 2(1) of the Firearms Act that itself is the holder of a licence is guilty of an offence under this Act or the Firearms Act by reason only that the individual possesses or transfers a firearm in the course of the individual's duties or employment if the individual is designated, by name, by a provincial minister within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Firearms Act. (5) A provincial minister shall not designate an individual for the purpose of subsection (4) where it is not desirable, in the interests of the safety of any person, to designate the individual. (6) A provincial minister may attach to a designation referred to in subsection (4) any reasonable condition that the provincial minister considers desirable in the particular circumstances and in the interests of the safety of any person." Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), moved Motion No. 222, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 29, on page 106, with the following: ``offence under any of sections 89, 90, 93,". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 223, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 29 and 30, on page 106, with the following: ``offence under sections 89 or 90, any question arises as to". Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 228, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 38, on page 108, the following new Clause: ``117.16(1) Every section in this Part expires on January 1, 1999 unless prior to that date, with respect to each section (a) the Auditor General has prepared and caused to be laid before Parliament a report on whether the section has been or will be a successful and cost-effective use of public funds to achieve an increase in public safety and a reduction in the incidence of violent crime involving the use of firearms, (b) the report of the Auditor General has been referred by the House to such committee as the House may designate for the purpose, (c) the committee has considered the report of the Auditor General and made a report to the House on the success and cost-effectiveness of the section and on the extent to which (i) public safety has been or will be increased or decreased, (ii) the incidence of crime related to the use of firearms has been or will be reduced or increased, and (iii) a cost-effective use of public funds has been or will be made to achieve an increase in public safety or a reduction in the incidence of violent crime involving the use of firearms, and (d) the committee has recommended to the House that the section should not expire, and (e) the House has concurred in the report of the committee. (2) Where a section is to expire as result of subsection (1), the Governor in Council may, by order, defer its expiry for a period not exceeding one year, if the section contains matters that do not relate to firearms control and the deferral is necessary in order for legislation to be proposed to Parliament to continue the other matters in force after the expiry of the section." Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 230, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 135. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 231, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 135, be amended by replacing line 21, on page 109, with the following: ``ment for a term of one year; and". Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 232, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 136. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 233, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 136, be amended by replacing line 32, on page 109, with the following: ``ment for a term of eight years; and". Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 234, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 137. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 235, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 137, be amended by replacing line 43, on page 109, with the following: ``ment for a term of six years; and". Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 236, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 138. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 237, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 138, be amended by replacing line 16, on page 110, with the following: ``term of six years." Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 238, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 139. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 239, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 139, be amended by replacing line 10, on page 111, with the following: ``(a) where a firearm or an imitation firearm is used in the commis-". Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 240, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 139, be amended by replacing line 30, on page 110, with the following: ``272. (1) Every person commits an aggravated assault who wounds, maims, disfigures or endangers the life of the complainant. (2) Notwithstanding section 85, every person who commits an aggravated assault is guilty of an indictable offence and liable (a) where a firearm is used in the commission of the offence, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years and to a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of six years; and (b) in any other case, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years." 272.1 (1) Every person commits an offence". Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 241, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 139, be amended by replacing line 14, on page 111, with the following: ``a term of six years; and". Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 242, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 140. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 243, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 140, be amended by replacing line 22, on page 111, with the following: ``(a) where a firearm or an imitation firearm is used in the commis-". Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 244, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 140, be amended by replacing line 25, on page 111, with the following: ``ment for a term of six years; and". Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 245, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 141. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 246, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 141, be amended by replacing line 42, on page 111, with the following: ``(a) where a firearm or an imitation firearm is used in the commis-". Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 247, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 141, be amended by replacing line 2, on page 112, with the following: ``ment for a term of six years; and". Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 248, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 142. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 249, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 142, be amended by replacing line 10, on page 112, with the following: ``(a) where a firearm or an imitation firearm is used in the commis-". Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 250, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 142, be amended by replacing line 13, on page 112, with the following: ``ment for a term of six years; and". Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 251, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 143. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 252, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 143, be amended by replacing line 20, on page 112, with the following: ``(a) where a firearm or an imitation firearm is used in the commis-". Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 253, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 143, be amended by replacing line 23, on page 112, with the following: ``ment for a term of six years; and". Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), moved Motion No. 254, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 144. Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 255, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 144, be amended by replacing line 30, on page 112, with the following: ``(a) where a firearm or an imitation firearm is used in the commis-". Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved Motion No. 256, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 144, be amended by replacing line 33 on page 112, with the following: ``ment for a term of six years; and". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 259, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 148, be amended by deleting lines 20 and 21, on page 115. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 264, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 172, be amended (a) by replacing line 1, on page 127, with the following: ``(8) Sections 114 to 117 of the Criminal"; and (b) by deleting lines 4 to 9, on page 127. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 265, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 183, be amended by deleting lines 21 to 29, on page 133. Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 4. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45(6), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That, pursuant to Standing Order 27(1), commencing on June 12, 1995, and concluding on June 23, 1995, on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, the House shall continue to sit until 11:30 p.m. and, on Fridays, until 5:00 p.m., for the purpose of considering Government Orders, provided that proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 38 shall, when applicable, be taken up between 11:30 p.m. and 12:00 a.m. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 251)

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-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-68, An Act respecting firearms and other weapons, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs with amendments; And of the motions in Group No. 4 (Motions Nos. 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 35, 133, 134, 136 to 144, 146, 147, 163 to 166, 173, 174 to 206, 208, 210, 212, 213, 214, 220, 221, 222, 223, 228, 230 to 256, 259, 264 and 265). The debate continued. At 7:45 p.m., pursuant to Order adopted Thursday, June 8, 1995, under the provisions of Standing Order 78(2), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings. The question was put on Motion No. 7 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 133, 173, 181, 198 and 222, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 35 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 134 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 136 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 146 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 147 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 164 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 165 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 166 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 175 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 176 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 177 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 178 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 179 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 259, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 180 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 194 and 195, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 185 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 196 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 202 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 203, 204, 205 and 206, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 208 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 210, 212, 213, 214, 264 and 265, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 220 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 221, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 228 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 230 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 232, 234, 236, 238, 242, 245, 248, 251 and 254, was deferred. Group No. 5 Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 13, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing line 21, on page 5, with the following: ``safety of any other person, that the". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 14, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 5, be amended (a) by replacing line 13, on page 6, with the following: ``against any other person; or"; and (b) by replacing line 17, on page 6, with the following: ``other person." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 38, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 21, be amended by replacing lines 35 and 36, on page 16, with the following: ``desirable, in the interests of the safety of any other person, that the". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 209, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 23 and 24, on page 90, with the following: ``ble in the interests of the safety of any other person, to make an order". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 211, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 17 and 18, on page 91, with the following: ``the interests of the safety of any other". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 217, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended (a) by replacing lines 40 and 41, on page 99, with the following: ``desirable in the interests of the safety of any other person, for the person"; (b) by replacing lines 4 and 5, on page 100, with the following: ``in the interests of the safety of any other person, for the person to possess any"; and (c) by replacing line 11, on page 100, with the following: ``safety of any other person, it". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 219, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 25 and 27, on page 101, with the following: ``interests of the safety of any other". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 258, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 147, be amended by replacing lines 41 and 42, on page 114, with the following: ``in the interests of the safety of any other person." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 260, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 151, be amended by replacing lines 4 and 5, on page 116, with the following: ``the interests of the safety of any other person, to include as a condition". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 262, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 169, be amended by replacing lines 21 and 22, on page 123, with the following: ``interests of the safety of any other person, to make an order prohibiting the". The question was put on Motion No. 13 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 14, 38, 209, 211, 217, 219, 258, 260 and 262, was deferred. Group No. 6 Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 15, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 6, be amended (a) by replacing line 30, on page 6, with the following: ``6. A person is eligible to hold a licence"; and (b) by deleting lines 36 to 39, on page 6. Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 16, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 34, on page 7, with the following: ``restricted firearms only if the individual successfully completes a restricted firearms safety course that is approved by the attorney general of the province in which the course is given." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 17, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 39 to 42, on page 8, and lines 1 and 2, on page 9, with the following: ``dividual against whom a prohibition order was made merely because another person against whom a prohibition order was made cohabited with, or was an associate of, the individual." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved Motion No. 18, -- That Clause 8 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 29 and 30, on page 9, and substituting the following: ``individual has consented, in writing or in any other manner that is satisfactory to the chief firearms officer, to the issuance of the licence." Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi), seconded by Mr. McTeague (Ontario), moved Motion No. 93, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 62, be amended by replacing lines 4 to 10, on page 33, with the following: ``individual who is eighteen years old or older remains valid unless revoked pursuant to this Act." Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 102, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 19, on page 38, the following new Clause: ``70.1 (1) A chief firearms officer shall not revoke or refuse to renew the licence of an individual to possess a restricted firearm, or a handgun referred to in paragraph 12(6)(a), where the individual (a) is not eligible to hold the licence or have it renewed by reason only of illness, travel or other valid reason; and (b) lends the firearm or handgun to Her Majesty, a police force or other borrower, in accordance with this Act, for the period of the ineligibility. (2) The Registrar shall not revoke the registration certificate for a firearm or handgun in the circumstances referred to in subsection (1)." The question was put on Motion No. 15 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 16 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 17 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 18 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 93 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 102 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. Group No. 7 Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 21, -- That Clause 9 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 14 to 21, on page 10, and substituting the following: ``holder to acquire restricted firearms. (3.1) In subsection (3), ``firearm" does not include a partially manufactured barrelled weapon that, in its unfinished state, is not a barrelled weapon (a) from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged; and (b) that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 22, -- That Clause 9 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 31 to 35, on page 10, and substituting the following: ``(a) who, in the course of duties of employment, handles or would handle only firearms that are designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, antique firearms, and who has been trained to handle or use such a firearm; or" Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 33, -- That the French version of Clause 17.1 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 27 and 28, on page 15, and substituting the following: ``(iii) désire la transporter aux fins de réparation, d'entreposage, de vente, d'exportation ou d'évaluation,". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 34, -- That the French version of Clause 17.1 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 30 to 32, on page 15, and substituting the following: ``d'armes à feu." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 36, -- That the French version of Clause 18 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 7 and 8, on page 16, and substituting the following: ``(iii) désire la transporter aux fins de réparation, d'entreposage, de vente, d'exportation ou d'évaluation,". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 47, -- That the French version of Clause 29 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 5, on page 21, and substituting the following: ``ques, techniques ou scientifiques relatives". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 57, -- That the French version of Clause 33 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 13, on page 22, and substituting the following: ``bées, de dispositifs prohibés, d'armes à autorisation restreinte, de". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 72, -- That Clause 43 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 23 to 28, on page 27, and substituting the following: ``(c) holds a licence authorizing it to possess those goods, except where those goods are to be shipped in transit through Canada by a business that does not carry on business in Canada;" Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 74, -- That the French version of Clause 44 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 36, on page 27, and substituting the following: ``l'autorisation d'exportation à l'agent des''. Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 80, -- That the French version of Clause 48 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 6, on page 29 and substituting the following: ``tion de marchandises visées à l'article 42 doivent faire l'objet d'une autorisation". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 89, -- That the English version of Clause 54 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 13 and 14, on page 31, and substituting the following: ``54. (1) A chief firearms officer is responsible for issuing licences." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 90, -- That the English version of Clause 55 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 20 to 22, on page 31, and substituting the following: ``55. A chief firearms officer is responsible for issuing authorizations to carry and authorizations to transport." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 171, -- That the French version of Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 30 to 33, on page 70, and substituting the following: «exporter» Exporter hors du Canada, notamment exporter des marchandises importées au Canada et expédiées en transit à travers celui-ci." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 172, -- That the French version of Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 37 to 40, on page 70, and substituting the following: «importer» Importer au Canada, notamment importer des marchandises expédiées en transit à travers le Canada et exportées hors de celui-ci.» Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 227, -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 36 and 37, on page 108, and substituting the following: ``prohibited device or prohibited ammunition if, in the opinion of the Governor in Council, the thing to be prescribed is reasonable for use". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 261, -- That Clause 161.1 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 30 to 32 on page 118 and substituting the following: ``(d) have been taken as a sample or seized under the Firearms Act or any other Act of Parliament; or". The question was put on Motion No. 21 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 22, 33, 34, 36, 47, 57, 72, 74, 80, 89, 90, 171, 172, 227 and 261, was deferred. Group No. 8 Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 25, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 19 to 20, on page 13, with the following: ``and for which on". Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 27, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 12, be amended (a) by replacing lines 44 to 45, on page 13, with the following: ``1977 if the particular individual is the spouse or a brother, sister, child or descendent of an"; and (b) by adding after line 2, on page 14, the following: ``(7.1) Where the particular handgun referred to in subsection (6) was manufactured between 1945 and 1977, the particular individual referred to in subsection (7) is only eligible for the licence if the individual submits, with the application for the licence, a statutory declaration declaring the handgun to be a family heirloom and stating the reasons for that belief." Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 159, -- That Clause 113 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 19 to 25, on page 59, and substituting the following: ``tion certificate; (b) in the case of an individual referred to in subsection 12(2), (3), (4), (5), (6) or (8), to acquire and possess any prohibited firearms referred to in that subsection that are acquired by the holder on or after the commencement day; and (c) in the case of a particular individual who is eligible under subsection 12(7) to hold a licence authorizing the particular individual to possess a handgun referred to in subsection 12(6) (pre-February 14, 1995 handguns) in the circumstances described in subsection 12(7), to acquire and possess such a handgun in those circumstances, if the particular handgun is acquired by the particular individual on or after the commencement day." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 160, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 40, on page 59, the following new Clause: ``113.1 (1) Every person who, immediately before the coming into force of any of subsections 106(1), 106.2(1) and 106.4(1), possessed a firearm without a firearm acquisition certificate because (a) the person possessed the firearm before January 1, 1979, or (b) the firearm acquisition certificate under which the person had acquired the firearm had expired, shall be deemed for the purposes of that subsection to be, until January 1, 2001 or such other date as is prescribed, the holder of a licence under which the person may possess the firearm. (2) Every person who, immediately before the coming into force of any of subsections 106(1), 106.2(1) and 106.4(1), possessed a firearm and was the holder of a firearm acquisition certificate shall be deemed for the purposes of that subsection to be, until January 1, 2001 or such other date as is prescribed, the holder of a licence under which the person may possess the firearm. (3) Every person who, at any time between the coming into force of subsection 106(1), 106.2(1) or106.4(1) and the later of January 1, 1998 and such other date as is prescribed, possesses a firearm that, as of that date, is not a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, shall be deemed for the purposes of that subsection to be, until January 1, 2003 or such other date as is prescribed, the holder of a registration certificate for that firearm." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 168, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 34, on page 69, with the following: ``(a) a handgun that has a barrel equal to or less than 105 mm in length". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 169, -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 34, on page 69, and substituting the following: ``a 25 or 32 calibre cartridge,". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 226, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended (a) by replacing line 32, on page 108, with the following: ``(2) Subject to subsection (3), in making regulations, the Governor in"; and (b) by adding after line 38, on page 108, the following: ``(3) The Governor in Council may not prescribe any handgun that is designed or adapted to discharge a .25 or .32 calibre cartridge to be a prohibited firearm." The question was put on Motion No. 25 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 168 and 226, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 27 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 159 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 160 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. Group No. 9 Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 26, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 12, be amended (a) by replacing line 21, on page 13, with the following: ``February 28, 1995 a registration certificate"; and (b) by replacing line 25, on page 13, with the following: ``(a) on February 28, 1995". Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 37, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 19, be amended by replacing line 19, on page 16, with the following: ``12(6) (pre-February 28, 1995 handguns) may". Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 44, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing line 10, on page 19, with the following: ``subsection 12(6) (pre-February 28, 1995". Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 46, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 27, be amended by replacing line 26, on page 19, with the following: ``12(6) (pre-February 28, 1995 handguns) or". Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 86, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 52, be amended by replacing line 17, on page 30, with the following: ``in subsection 12(6) (pre-February 28, 1995". Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 94, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 63, be amended by replacing line 3, on page 34, with the following: ``12(6) (pre-February 28, 1995 handguns) for". Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 96, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 65, be amended (a) by replacing line 10, on page 35, with the following: ``(pre-February 28, 1995 handguns) a chief"; and (b) by replacing line 26, on page 35, with the following: ``(28, 1995 handguns) that are possessed by an". The question was put on Motion No. 26 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 37, 44, 46, 86, 94 and 96, was deferred. Group No. 10 Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 30, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 15. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 31, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 16 be amended by replacing lines 1 to 4, on page 13, with the following: ``16. (1) A registration certificate for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm may be issued to only one person. (2) Subsection (1) does not apply in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm for which a registration certificate". Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 32, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing lines 40 to 42, on page 14, with the following: ``of a firearm where (a) two spouses, who each hold a licence to possess the firearm, apply to have the registration certificate issued to them jointly; or (b) a registration certificate referred to in section 121 was issued for the firearm to more than one person." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 114, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 80. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 115, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 81. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 116, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 82. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 117, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 83. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 118, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 84. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 119, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 85. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 120, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 86. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 121, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 87. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 122, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 88. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 123, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 89. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 124, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 90. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 125, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 91. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 126, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 92. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 127, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 93, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 24, on page 46, with the following: ``registration certificates and authorizations; and". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 128, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 97. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 129, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 98. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 130, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 99. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 131, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 100. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 132, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 101. Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 148, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 110, be amended by replacing line 44, on page 55, with the following: ``(p) subject to section 110.1, prescribing the fees that are to be paid to". Mr. Brien (Témiscamingue), seconded by Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), moved Motion No. 149, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 110, be amended by replacing line 44, on page 55, with the following: ``(p) prescribing, after consultation with the committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to justice, for a period of twenty years following the coming into force of the regulations, the fees that are to be paid to". Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), seconded by Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), moved Motion No. 150, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 110, be amended by replacing lines 3 to 5, on page 56, with the following: ``(q) prescribing, in a manner that is equal and fair for every one, the method of payment for the fees payable under paragraph (p);". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 151, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 110, be amended by deleting lines 12 and 13, on page 56. Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), seconded by Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), moved Motion No. 152, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 110, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 33, on page 56, with the following: ``provision of this Act or the regulations applies;". Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 153, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 26, on page 57, the following new Clause: ``110.1 (1) The fees referred to in paragraph 110(p) shall not be increased during any period by a percentage greater than the percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index for the same period. (2) For the purposes of this section, the Consumer Price Index for a period means the average of the Consumer Price Index for Canada, as published by Statistics Canada under the authority of the Statistics Act. (3) No fee shall be prescribed under paragraph 110(p) for the transfer of a firearm by an individual to an immediate family member." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 155, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 111, be amended by replacing lines 44 to 46, on page 57, and lines 1 to 5, on page 58, with the following: ``(3) A proposed regulation that has been laid pursuant to subsection (1) may be made (a) on the expiration of thirty sitting days after it has been laid; or (b) at any time after it has been laid, where the federal Minister is of the opinion that the making of the regulation is urgent." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 156, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 111, be amended by adding after line 5, on page 58, the following: ``(3.1) A regulation shall be made subject to affirmative resolution of Parliament." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 157, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 112. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 161, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 121, be amended by replacing lines 40 to 43, on page 62, and lines 1 and 2, on page 63, with the following: ``(2) For greater certainty, a registration certificate that is deemed to be a registration certificate issued under section 58 is valid until it expires by virtue of section 64." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 162, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 123, be amended by replacing lines 39 to 44, on page 63, with the following: ``(3) A permit expires on the expiration of the period for which it was expressed to be issued." Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 263, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 169, be amended by deleting lines 39 to 43, on page 123. The question was put on Motion No. 30 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 114 to 132, 151 and 263, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 31 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 148 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 153, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 150 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 152, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 155 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 156 and 157, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 161 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 162, was deferred. Group No. 11 Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), moved Motion No. 48, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 29, be amended (a) by replacing lines 5 and 6, on page 21, with the following: ``relate or distinguish the one or more restricted firearms or handguns in his or her collection;"; and (b) by replacing line 10, on page 21, with the following: ``handguns collection is to be kept; and". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 53, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 31, be amended by replacing line 31, on page 21, with the following: ``sections 20 to 27, 29, 30, 39 to 41 and 45 to". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 61, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 34. Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Culbert (Carleton -- Charlotte), moved Motion No. 62, -- That Bill C- 68, in Clause 34, be amended (a) by replacing lines 24 and 25, on page 22, with the following: ``licence may import a restricted firearm if, at the time of the"; and (b) by replacing lines 34 and 35, on page 22, with the following: ``(iii) produces an authorization to transport the". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 63, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 35. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 64, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 36. Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Culbert (Carleton -- Charlotte), moved Motion No. 65, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 36, be amended by replacing lines 7 and 8, on page 24, with the following: ``licence may export a restricted firearm that was imported by". Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 66, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 37, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 5, on page 25, with the following: ``(ii) produces his or her licence and, in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, the registration certificate for the prohibited firearm or the restricted firearm and the authorization to transport the prohibited firearm or the restricted firearm; and". Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Culbert (Carleton -- Charlotte), moved Motion No. 67, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 37, be amended by replacing lines 3 and 4, on page 25, with the following: ``and an authorization to". Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Culbert (Carleton -- Charlotte), moved Motion No. 68, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 39, be amended (a) by replacing lines 27 to 29, on page 25, with the following: ``accordance with that section and an authorization to transport the"; and (b) by replacing lines 31 and 32, on page 25, with the following: ``(c) in the case of a restricted firearm for which a registra-". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 75, -- That Clause 45 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 8 to 13, on page 28, and substituting the following: ``(a) holds a licence authorizing it to acquire and possess those goods, except where those goods are to be shipped in transit through Canada by a business that does not carry on business in Canada;". Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 83, -- That Clause 51.1 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 26 to 34, on page 29, and substituting the following: ``51.1 No business shall import a prohibited firearm, prohibited weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition that is to be shipped in transit through Canada and exported." Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 84, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding immediately after line 34, on page 29, the following the new Clause: ``51.1 (1) A person shall not import or export a firearm that has not been rendered inoperative by a secure locking device. (2) For the purposes of this section, ``secure locking device" means a device that (a) cannot be opened or unlocked except with an electronic, magnetic or mechanical key or an alphanumeric combination lock; and (b) once installed on an unrestricted firearm or a restricted firearm, prevents it from shooting. (3) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. (4) A person who has been convicted of an offence under subsection (1) is deemed not to have been convicted of a criminal offence. (5) An offence referred to in subsection (1) does not constitute an offence for the purposes of the Criminal Records Act. (6) For greater certainty, notwithstanding subsection (4), the provisions of the Criminal Code relating to summary conviction offences apply to an offence referred to in subsection (1). (7) For greater certainty, nothing in this section prevents the punishment to which a person might otherwise be lawfully sentenced on a conviction for an offence referred to in sub section (1).'' Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), moved Motion No. 135, -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 24, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``103.1 (1) A person shall not complete the assembly or manufacture of a firearm without equipping the firearm with a secure locking device. (2) For the purposes of this section, ``secure locking device" means a device that (a) cannot be opened or unlocked except with an electronic, magnetic or mechanical key or an alphanumeric combination lock; and (b) once installed on an unrestricted firearm or a restricted firearm, prevents it from shooting. (3) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. (4) A person who has been convicted of an offence under subsection (1) is deemed not to have been convicted of a criminal offence. (5) An offence referred to in subsection (1) does not constitute an offence for the purposes of the Criminal Records Act. (6) For greater certainty, notwithstanding subsection (4), the provisions of the Criminal Code relating to summary conviction offences apply to an offence referred to in subsection (1). (7) For greater certainty, nothing in this section prevents the punishment to which a person might otherwise be lawfully sentenced on a conviction for an offence referred to in subsection (1).'' Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 229, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 134, be amended by replacing lines 11 and 12, on page 109, with the following: ``ing knowing it is unauthorized)''. Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 257, -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 145, be amended by deleting lines 3 and 4, on page 113. The question was put on Motion No. 48 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 53 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 229 and 257, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 61 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 63 and 64, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 75 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 83, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 84 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 135, was deferred. Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-68, An Act respecting firearms and other weapons, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs with amendments. By unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 267 of Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), seconded by Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), -- That Bill C-68, be amended by adding after line 28, on page 134, the following new Clause: ``185.1 No later than January 1, 2001, the federal Minister shall prepare a report on the effectiveness of this Act in reducing the incidence of indictable offenses involving the use of a firearm and lay the report before the House of Commons." The question was put on Motion No. 267 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 252)

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Arseneault -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Blaikie -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Culbert -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Finlay -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- MacDonald -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Skeena) -- Serré -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- 96

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Murray -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Sheridan -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Zed -- 123

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by replacing the words ``other weapons'' in the long title, on page 1, with the words ``related matters''. The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 253)

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Members--Députés

-- Arseneault -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Mayfield -- Mitchell -- Nault -- Riis -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Ur -- Wappel -- Wood -- 17

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hoeppner -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Highlands -- Canso) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Zed -- 209

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 4, be amended by adding after line 38, on page 4, the following: ``(a.1) generally to promote firearm safety and reduce firearm-related crime without jeopardising the reasonable uses for firearms in Canadian society or imposing an undue administrative and financial burden on Canadian taxpayers, including legitimate firearm owners;". The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 254)

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Members--Députés

-- Arseneault -- Bellehumeur -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Guay -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- Mitchell -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- Wood -- 39

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Zed -- 187

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 158 of Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding, after line 40, on page 58, with the following new Clause: ``112.1 (1) The Minister shall periodically conduct a review of this Act and the regulations and shall table a report on the review in the House of Commons within twelve months of commencing the review. (2) The first review must be conducted no later than December 31, 2003, and no more than five years may elapse between the tabling of the report on a review in the House of Commons and the comencement of a subsequent review." The question was put on Motion No. 158 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 255)

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Members--Députés

Arseneault -- Bellehumeur -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Finlay -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Guay -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- MacDonald -- McCormick -- Mitchell -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Venne -- Verran -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- 50

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Highlands -- Canso) -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Walker -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Zed -- 177

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 167 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 33, on page 65, the following new Clause: ``129.1(1) Sections 3 to 129 expire on December 31, 1999 unless prior to that date, with respect to each section (a) the Auditor General has prepared and caused to be laid before Parliament a report on whether the section has been or will be a successful and cost-effective use of public funds to achieve an increase in public safety and a reduction in the incidence of violent crime involving the use of firearms, (b) the report of the Auditor General has been referred by the House to such committee as the house may designate for the purpose, (c) the committee has considered the report of the Auditor General and made a report to the House on the success and cost-effectiveness of the section and on the extent to which (i) public safety has been or will be increased or decreased, (ii) the incidence of crime related to the use of firearms has been or will be reduced or increased. (iii) a cost-effective use of public funds has been or will be made to achieve an increase in public safety or a reduction in the incidence of violent crime involving the use of firearms, (d) the committee has recommended to the House that the section should not expire, and (e) the House has concurred in the report of the committee. (2) Where a section is to expire as result of subsection (1), the Governor in Council may, by order, defer its expiry for a period not exceeding one year, if the section contains matters that do not relate to firearms control and the deferral is necessary in order for legislation to be proposed to Parliament to continue the other matters in force after the expiry of the section." The question was put on Motion No. 167 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 256)

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- de Jong -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 50

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Zed -- 175

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 266 of Mr. Riis (Kamloops), seconded by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), -- That Bill C-68, be amended by adding after line 28, on page 134, the following new Clause: ``185.1 (1) In 2000, no later than June 1, and every three years thereafter, a comprehensive review of the provisions of this Act shall be undertaken by such Committee of the House of Commons as the House may designate for that purpose. (2) The Committee shall review the effectiveness of the provisions of this Act and the use of firearms in the community in general and shall report to the House as to whether any provision of this Act or the regulations or any other legislation respecting firearms should be amended, augmented or repealed." The question was put on Motion No. 266 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 257)

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Blaikie -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Finlay -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ringma -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- Wappel -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 86

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- Wells -- Zed -- 137

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Bill C- 68 be amended, in Clause 2, by adding after line 11, on page 4, the following: ``(3) For greater certainty, nothing in this Act shall be construed so as to abrogate or derogate from any existing aboriginal or treaty rights of the aboriginal peoples of Canada under section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982." The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 258)

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Zed -- 152 PAIRED258 -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 145 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Clause 107.1 of Bill C-68 be amended (a) by striking out, in the English version, line 23, on page 52, and substituting the following: ``may lawfully use it;" (b) by striking out line 28, on page 52, and substituting the following: ``obtains a registration certificate for it; or (c) a person who possesses a firearm and who is not the holder of a registration certificate for the firearm if the person (i) has borrowed the firearm, (ii) is the holder of a licence under which the person may possess it, and (iii) is in possession of the firearm to hunt or trap in order to sustain himself or herself or his or her family." The question was put on Motion No. 145 and it was agreed to on the following division:

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 74

(Division--Vote N^o 259)

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Zed -- 153

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 71

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

18Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 11, on page 4, the following new Clause: ``2.1 This Act does not apply in respect of (a) any firearm that is not a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm; or (b) any ammunition that is not prohibited ammunition." The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 260)

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Nault -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- 60

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Highlands -- Canso) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Sheridan -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Zed -- 163

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young Accordingly, Motions Nos. 6 and 154 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 23 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That the French version of Clause 10 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 36 to 41, on page 10, and line 1, on page 11, and substituting the following: ``10. Les articles 5, 6 et 9 s'appliquent aux transporteurs se livrant à des activités, notamment, de transport d'armes à feu, d'armes prohibées, d'armes à autorisation restreinte, de dispositifs prohibés ou de munitions prohibées reliant une province et une ou plusieurs autres provinces, ou débordant les limites d'une province, et, à cette fin, la mention du". The question was put on Motion No. 23 and, by unanimous consent, it was agreed to. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 24 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 3, on page 11, with the following: ``province." The question was put on Motion No. 24 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 261)

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- de Jong -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 49

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Zed -- 173

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 28 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing line 24, on page 14, with the following: ``registration certificate for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm unless the". The question was put on Motion No. 28 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 29, 43, 49, 51, 60, 69, 71, 76, 79, 92, 95, 100, 207, 215, 216, 218 and 225 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 50 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 17, on page 21, with the following: ``transfer of a firearm, a chief firearms officer may". The question was put on Motion No. 50 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 41 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 25. The question was put on Motion No. 41 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 42 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 25, be amended by replacing lines 20 and 21, on page 18, with the following: ``or to a police force if the person informs a chief firearms officer of the transfer and complies with the". The question was put on Motion No. 42 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 45 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 19 to 21, on page 19, with the following: ``(c) decide whether to approve the transfer or importation; and". The question was put on Motion No. 45 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 52, 70, 73, 77, 81, 82, 85, 91, 97, 98, 99, 101, 105, 106, 108, 113, 170 and 224 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 78 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Clause 45 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 28 to 30, on page 28, and substituting the following: ``(f) provides the Registrar with the prescribed information and any other information reasonably required by the Registrar." The question was put on Motion No. 78 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 262)

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Zed -- 173

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- de Jong -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 49

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 54 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Clause 32 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 4 to 8, on page 22, and substituting the following: ``(i) has reasonable grounds to believe that the borrower holds a licence authorizing the borrower to possess that kind of firearm, and (ii) lends the borrower the registration certificate for the firearm, except in the case of a borrower who uses the firearm to hunt or trap in order to sustain himself or herself or his or her family; or". The question was put on Motion No. 54 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 263)

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Zed -- 180

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 42

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 87 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 53. The question was put on Motion No. 87 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 88 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 53, be amended by replacing lines 32 and 33, on page 30, with the following: ``53. (1) A chief firearms officer may require an applicant for a". The question was put on Motion No. 88 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 103 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That the French version of Clause 71 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 25, on page 38, and substituting the following: ``autres provinces, ou débordant les limites d'une province, et, à cette fin, la mention du". The question was put on Motion No. 103 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 180, NAYS: 42. (See list under Division No. 263) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 109 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Clause 75 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 31 to 42, on page 40, and substituting the following: ``(a) the Attorney General of Canada may appeal to the superior court against the order, if the order is directed to a chief firearms officer who was designated by the federal Minister, to the Registrar or to the federal Minister; or (b) the attorney general of the province may appeal to the superior court against the order, in the case of any other order made under paragraph 74(b) or (c)." The question was put on Motion No. 109 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 173, NAYS: 49. (See list under Division No. 262) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 111 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Clause 76 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 19 to 23, on page 41, and substituting the following: ``(a) the Attorney General of Canada, in the case of an appeal of an order made under paragraph 74(a) confirming a decision of a chief firearms officer who was designated by the federal Minister, of the Registrar or of the federal Minister;". The question was put on Motion No. 111 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 173, NAYS: 49. (See list under Division No. 262) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 4, be amended (a) by replacing line 24, on page 4, with the following: ``under subsection 101.1(1) of this Act or subsection 92(1), 93(1) or:"; and ``(b) by replacing lines 31 and 32, on page 4, with the following ``constitute an offence under subsection 101.1(2) of this Act or subsection 92(2) or 93(1) of the Criminal". The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 264)

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Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bellehumeur -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Blaikie -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Guay -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Riis -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Taylor -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 34

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Scott (Skeena) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- Zed -- 189

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young Accordingly, Motions Nos. 133, 173, 181, 198 and 222 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 8, of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 24 and 25, on page 4, with the following: ``under section 106 of this Act and subsection 95(1) of the Criminal Code,". The question was put on Motion No. 8, and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 9, 11, 12, 137 to 144 and 163 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 174 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 8 and 9, on page 72, with the following: ``(3) For the purposes of sections 95, 99, 100, 103 and 117.03 of this Act and". The question was put on Motion No. 174 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 184 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 16 to 45, on page 76, and lines 1 to 11, on page 77. The question was put on Motion No. 184 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 265)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Blaikie -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 77

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Zed -- 146

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 182 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 16, on page 76, and substituting the following: ``91. (1) Subject to subsections (4) and (5) and section". The question was put on Motion No. 182 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 266)

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Scott (Skeena) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- Zed -- 195

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Bellehumeur -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Guay -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 28

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 183 of Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Culbert (Carleton -- Charlotte), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended (a) by replacing line 18, on page 76, with the following: ``possesses a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, unless the person is;" (b) by replacing lines 38 and 39, on page 76, with the following: ``(a) a person who possesses a prohibited firearm, a restricted firearm, a"; (c) by replacing line 14, on page 77, with the following: ``possesses a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm knowing that the person is"; (d) by replacing line 28, on page 78, with the following: ``prohibited firearm, a restricted firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted"; (e) by replacing line 8, on page 79, with the following: ``in which the person knows there is a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm,"; (f) by replacing lines 17 to 20, on page 79, with the following: ``may possess and transport the firearm,"; (g) by replacing lines 29 to 32, on page 79, with the following: ``possess and transport the firearm, and"; (h) by replacing line 26, on page 80, with the following; ``ing aware of the presence of the prohibited firearm, restricted firearm," (i) by replacing line 36, on page 80, with the following: ``of the prohibited firearm, restricted firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted"; (j) by replacing line 33, on page 98, with the following: ``(a) a person in possession of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm who"; and (k) by replacing line 4, in the English version, on page 99, with the following: ``may seize the prohibited firearm, restricted firearm, prohibited weapon, re-". The question was put on Motion No. 183 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 267)

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Members--Députés

-- Mitchell -- Murphy -- 2

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Madeleine) -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Scott (Skeena) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- Zed -- 221

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 187 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 12 to 47, on page 77, and lines 1 to 23, on page 78. The question was put on Motion No. 187 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 186 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 12, on page 77, and substituting the following: ``92. (1) Subject to subsections (4) and (5) and section". The question was put on Motion No. 186 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 268)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Zed -- 152

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 71

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 188 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 14, on page 78, and substituting the following: ``(5) Subsection (1) does not apply to a person who possesses a firearm that is neither a prohibited firearm nor a restricted firearm and who is not the holder of a registration certificate for the firearm if the person (a) has borrowed the firearm; (b) is the holder of a licence under which the person may possess it; and (c) is in possession of the firearm to hunt or trap in order to sustain the person or the person's family. (6) Where a person is charged with an". The question was put on Motion No. 188 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 152, NAYS 71. (See list under Division No. 268) The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 189 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 24 to 45, on page 78, and lines 1 to 4, on page 79. The question was put on Motion No. 189 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 191 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 5 to 46, on page 79, and lines 1 to 38, on page 80. The question was put on Motion No. 191 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 190 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), -- That clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 5, on page 79, and substituting the following: ``94. (1) Subject to subsections (3) to (5)". The question was put on Motion No. 190 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 152, NAYS: 71. (See list under Division No. 268) Accordingly, Motion No. 193 was also agreed to on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 197 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 20 to 43, on page 82, and lines 1 to 11, on page 83. The question was put on Motion No. 197 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motion No. 192 was also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 199 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 11, on page 83. The question was put on Motion No. 199 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 200 of Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 2 and 3, on page 83, with the following: ``between the coming into force of subsection 101.1(1) of the Firearms Act or subsection 92(1) or 94(1) of this Act and the later of January". The question was put on Motion No. 200 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 34, NAYS: 189. (See list under Division No. 264) The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 201 of Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 3 to 9, on page 83, with the following: ``91(1), 92(1) or 94(1) and January 1, 1996, possesses a firearm that, as of that date, is not a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, shall be deemed for the purposes of that subsection to be, until December 31, 2000, the". The question was put on Motion No. 201 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 269)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Bellehumeur -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Guay -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 28

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Scott (Skeena) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- Zed -- 195

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 223 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 29 and 30, on page 106, with the following: ``offence under sections 89 or 90, any question arises as to". The question was put on Motion No. 223 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 35 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 18, be amended by replacing lines 5 and 6, on page 16, with the following: ``sal in accordance with this Act,". The question was put on Motion No. 35 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 77, NAYS: 146. (See list under Division No. 265) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 134 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 17, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``102.1 (1) Every person commits an offence who knowingly makes, before a peace officer, firearms officer or chief firearms officer, a false report or statement concerning the loss, theft or destruction of a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, any prohibited ammunition, an authorization, a licence or a registration certificate. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. (3) In this section, ``report" or ``statement" means an assertion of fact, opinion, belief or knowledge, whether material or not and whether admissible or not." The question was put on Motion No. 134 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 136 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 28, on page 51, the following new Clause: ``104.1 (1) Subject to subsections (3) and (4), every person commits an offence who is an occupant of a motor vehicle in which the person knows there is a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, other than a replica firearm, or any prohibited ammunition, unless (a) in the case of a firearm, (i) the person or any other occupant of the motor vehicle is the holder of an authorization or a licence under which the person or other occupant may possess the firearm and, in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, transport the prohibited firearm or restricted firearm, (ii) the person had reasonable grounds to believe that any other occupant of the motor vehicle was the holder of an authorization or a licence under which that other occupant may possess the firearm and, in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, transport the prohibited firearm or restricted firearm, and (iii) the person had reasonable grounds to believe that any other occupant of the motor vehicle was a person who could not be convicted of an offence under this Act or any other Act of Parliament; and (b) in the case of a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any prohibited ammunition, (i) the person or any other occupant of the motor vehicle is the holder of an authorization or a licence under which the person or other occupant may transport the prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition, or (ii) the person had reasonable grounds to believe that any other occupant of the motor vehicle was (A) the holder of an authorization or a licence under which the other occupant may transport the prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition, or (B) a person who could not be convicted of an offence under this Act or any other Act of Parliament. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. (3) Subsection (1) does not apply to an occupant of a motor vehicle who, on becoming aware of the presence of the firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition in the motor vehicle, attempted to leave the motor vehicle, to the extent that it was feasible to do so, or actually left the motor vehicle. (4) Subsection (1) does not apply to an occupant of a motor vehicle where the occupant or any other occupant of the motor vehicle is a person who came into possession of the firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition by the operation of law." The question was put on Motion No. 136 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 146 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 10, on page 53, the following new Clause: ``108.1 (1) Every person commits an offence who (a) having lost a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, any prohibited ammunition, an authorization, a licence or a registration certificate, or having had it stolen from the person's possession, does not with reasonable despatch report the loss to a peace officer, to a firearms officer or a chief firearms officer; or (b) on finding a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any prohibited ammunition that the person has reasonable grounds to believe has been lost or abandoned, does not with reasonable despatch deliver it to a peace officer, a firearms officer or a chief firearms officer or report the finding to a peace officer, a firearms officer or a chief firearms officer. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction." The question was put on Motion No. 146 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 147 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 10, on page 53, the following new Clause: ``108.2 (1) Every person commits an offence who (a) after destroying any firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition, or (b) on becoming aware of the destruction of any firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition that was in the person's possession before its destruction, does not with reasonable despatch report the destruction to a peace officer, firearms officer or chief firearms officer. (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction." The question was put on Motion No. 147 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 164 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 33, on page 65, the following new Clause: ``129.2 (1) In any proceedings under this Act or any other Act of Parliament, a document purporting to be an authorization, a licence or a registration certificate is evidence of the statements contained therein. (2) In any proceedings under this Act or any other Act of Parliament, a copy of any authorization, licence or registration certificate is, if certified as a true copy by the Registrar or a chief firearms officer, admissible in evidence and, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, has the same probative force as the authorization, licence or registration certificate would have had if it had been proved in the ordinary way." The question was put on Motion No. 164 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 165 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 33, on page 65, the following new Clause: ``129.3 (1) A certificate purporting to be signed by an analyst stating that the analyst has analysed any weapon, prohibited device, ammunition, prohibited ammunition or explosive substance, or any part or component of such a thing, and stating the results of the analysis is evidence in any proceedings in relation to any of those things under this Act or under section 19 of the Export and Import Permits Act in relation to subsection 15(2) of that Act without proof of the signature or official character of the person appearing to have signed the certificate. (2) The party against whom a certificate of an analyst is produced may, with leave of the court, require the attendance of the analyst for the purposes of cross-examination. (3) No certificate of an analyst may be admitted in evidence unless the party intending to produce it has, before the trial, given to the party against whom it is intended to be produced reasonable notice of that intention together with a copy of the certificate. (4) For the purposes of this Act, service of a certificate of an analyst may be proved by oral evidence given under oath by, or by the affidavit or solemn declaration of, the person claiming to have served it. (5) Notwithstanding subsection (4), the court may require the person who appears to have signed an affidavit or solemn declaration referred to in that subsection to appear before it for examination or cross-examination in respect of the issue of proof of service." The question was put on Motion No. 165 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 77, NAYS: 146. (See list under Division No. 265) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 166 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 33, on page 65, the following new Clause: ``129.4 (1) The Governor in Council may, by order, declare for any purpose referred to in subsection (2) any period as an amnesty period with respect to any weapon, prohibited device, prohibited ammunition, explosive substance or component or part designed exclusively for use in the manufacture of or assembly into an automatic firearm. (2) An order made under subsection (1) may declare an amnesty period for the purpose of (a) permitting any person in possession of any thing to which the order relates to do anything provided in the order, including, without restricting the generality of the foregoing, delivering the thing to a peace officer, a firearms officer or a chief firearms officer, registering it, destroying it or otherwise disposing of it; or (b) permitting alterations to be made to any prohibited firearm, prohibited weapon, prohibited device or prohibited ammunition to which the order relates so that it no longer qualifies as a prohibited firearm, a prohibited weapon, a prohibited device or prohibited ammunition, as the case may be. (3) No person who, during an amnesty period declared by an order made under subsection (1) and for a purpose described in the order, does anything provided for in the order, is, by reason only of the fact that the person did that thing, guilty of an offence under this Part. (4) Any proceedings taken under this Part against any person for anything done by the person in reliance of this section are a nullity." The question was put on Motion No. 166 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 175 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 5, on page 73, with the following: ``(b) a registration certificate for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm if". The question was put on Motion No. 175 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 176 of Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended (a) by replacing line 13, on page 73, with the following: ``who uses a firearm or an imitation firearm"; and (b) by replacing line 29, on page 73, with the following: ``using the firearm or imitation firearm." The question was put on Motion No. 176 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 177 of Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 19 and 20, on page 73, with the following: ``tent -- firearm), 272.1 (sexual assault with a weapon), 273 (aggravated sexual assault),". The question was put on Motion No. 177 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 178 of Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended (a) by deleting lines 30 to 39, on page 73; (b) by replacing line 2, on page 74, with the following: ``under subsection (1) is guilty of an"; (c) by replacing line 26, on page 74, with the following: ``offence under subsection (1) shall be"; and (d) by replacing lines 32 and 33, on page 73, with the following: ``the person for an offence under subsection (1)." The question was put on Motion No. 178 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 179 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 34 to 47, on page 74, and lines 1 to 11, on page 75. The question was put on Motion No. 179 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 270)

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 43

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-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Zed -- 180

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young Accordingly, Motion No. 259 was also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 180 of Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), -- That Bill C-68 in Clause 133, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 35, on page 75, with the following: ``under subsection (1) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years." The question was put on Motion No. 180 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 194 and 195 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 185 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by adding immediately after line 11, on page 77, the following: ``(5) Subsection (1) does not apply to a person who possesses a firearm that is neither a prohibited firearm nor a restricted firearm and who is not the holder of a registration certificate for the firearm if the person (a) has borrowed the firearm; (b) is the holder of a licence under which the person may possess it; and (c) is in possession of the firearm to hunt or trap in order to sustain the person or the person's family." The question was put on Motion No. 185 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 152, NAYS: 71. (See list under Division No. 268) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 196 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 19, on page 82. The question was put on Motion No. 196 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 202 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by deleting lines 7 to 21, on page 84. The question was put on Motion No. 202 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 203 to 206 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 208 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 133, be amended by replacing line 43, on page 89, with the following: ``(5) Sections 114 to 117 apply in respect of". The question was put on Motion No. 208 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 43, NAYS: 180. (See list under Division No. 270) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 210, 212, 213, 214, 264 and 265 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 220 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended (a) by adding immediately after line 9, on page 106, the following: ``(2) Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, but subject to section 117.1, no individual who is employed by a business as defined in subsection 2(1) of the Firearms Act that itself is the holder of a licence is guilty of an offence under this Act or the Firearms Act by reason only that the individual, in the course of the individual's duties or employment, possesses, manufactures or transfers, or offers to manufacture or transfer, a partially manufactured barrelled weapon that, in its unfinished state, is not a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person."; and (b) by renumbering the subsequent subclause and any cross-references thereto accordingly. The question was put on Motion No. 220 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 271)

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Zed -- 180

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 43

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young Accordingly, Motion No. 221 was also agreed to on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 228 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 38, on page 108, the following new Clause: ``117.16(1) Every section in this Part expires on January 1, 1999 unless prior to that date, with respect to each section (a) the Auditor General has prepared and caused to be laid before Parliament a report on whether the section has been or will be a successful and cost-effective use of public funds to achieve an increase in public safety and a reduction in the incidence of violent crime involving the use of firearms, (b) the report of the Auditor General has been referred by the House to such committee as the house may designate for the purpose, (c) the committee has considered the report of the Auditor General and made a report to the House on the success and cost-effectiveness of the section and on the extent to which (i) public safety has been or will be increased or decreased, (ii) the incidence of crime related to the use of firearms has been or will be reduced or increased, and (iii) a cost-effective use of public funds has been or will be made to achieve an increase in public safety or a reduction in the incidence of violent crime involving the use of firearms, and (d) the committee has recommended to the House that the section should not expire, and (e) the House has concurred in the report of the committee. (2) Where a section is to expire as result of subsection (1), the Governor in Council may, by order, defer its expiry for a period not exceeding one year, if the section contains matters that do not relate to firearms control and the deferral is necessary in order for legislation to be proposed to Parliament to continue the other matters in force after the expiry of the section.'' The question was put on Motion No. 228 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 230 of Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 135. The question was put on Motion No. 230 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 28, NAYS: 195. (See list under Division No. 269) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 232, 234, 236, 238, 242, 245, 248, 251 and 254 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 231 of Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 135, be amended by replacing line 21, on page 109, with the following: ``ment for a term of one year; and". The question was put on Motion No. 231 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 233, 235, 237, 241, 244, 247, 250, 253 and 256 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 239 of Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 139, be amended by replacing line 10, on page 111, with the following: ``(a) where a firearm or an imitation firearm is used in the commis-". The question was put on Motion No. 239 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 77, NAYS: 146. (See list under Division No. 265) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 243, 246, 249, 252 and 255 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 240 of Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 139, be amended by replacing line 30, on page 110, with the following: ``272. (1) Every person commits an aggravated assault who wounds, maims, disfigures or endangers the life of the complainant. (2) Notwithstanding section 85, every person who commits an aggravated assault is guilty of an indictable offence and liable (a) where a firearm is used in the commission of the offence, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years and to a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of six years; and (b) in any other case, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years." 272.1 (1) Every person commits an offence". The question was put on Motion No. 240 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing line 21, on page 5, with the following: ``safety of any other person, that the". The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 14, 38, 209, 211, 217, 219, 258, 260 and 262 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 15 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 6, be amended (a) by replacing line 30, on page 6, with the following: ``6. A person is eligible to hold a licence"; and (b) by deleting lines 36 to 39, on page 6. The question was put on Motion No. 15 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 16 of Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 34, on page 7, with the following: ``restricted firearms only if the individual successfully completes a restricted firearms safety course that is approved by the attorney general of the province in which the course is given." The question was put on Motion No. 16 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 77, NAYS: 146. (See list under Division No. 265) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 17 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 39 to 42, on page 8, and lines 1 and 2, on page 9, with the following: ``dividual against whom a prohibition order was made merely because another person against whom a prohibition order was made cohabited with, or was an associate of, the individual." The question was put on Motion No. 17 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 18 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Clause 8 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 29 and 30, on page 9, and substituting the following: ``individual has consented, in writing or in any other manner that is satisfactory to the chief firearms officer, to the issuance of the licence." The question was put on Motion No. 18 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 195, NAYS: 28. (See list under Division No. 266) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 93 of Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi), seconded by Mr. McTeague (Ontario), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 62, be amended by replacing lines 4 to 10, on page 33, with the following: ``individual who is eighteen years old or older remains valid unless revoked pursuant this Act." The question was put on Motion No. 93 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 102 of Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 19, on page 38, the following new Clause: ``70.1 (1) A chief firearms officer shall not revoke or refuse to renew the licence of an individual to possess a restricted firearm, or a handgun referred to in paragraph 12(6)(a), where the individual (a) is not eligible to hold the licence or have it renewed by reason only of illness, travel or other valid reason; and (b) lends the firearm or handgun the Her Majesty, a police force or other borrower, in accordance with this Act, for the period of the ineligibility. (2) The Registrar shall not revoke the registration certificate for a firearm or handgun in the circumstances referred to in subsection (1)." The question was put on Motion No. 102 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 21, of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)) -- That Clause 9 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 14 to 21, on page 10, and substituting the following: ``holder to acquire restricted firearms. (3.1) In subsection (3), ``firearm" does not include a partially manufactured barrelled weapon that, in its unfinished state, is not a barrelled weapon (a) from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged; and (b) that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person." The question was put on Motion No. 21, and, by unanimous consent, it was agreed to. Accordingly, Motions Nos. 22, 33, 34, 36, 47, 57, 72, 74, 80, 89, 90, 171, 172 and 261 were also agreed to. By unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 227 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 36 and 37, on page 108, and substituting the following: ``prohibited device or prohibited ammunition if, in the opinion of the Governor in Council, the thing to be prescribed is reasonable for use". The question was put on Motion No. 227 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 272)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Sheridan -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- 132

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Arseneault -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Culbert -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- 85

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 25 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 19 to 20, on page 13, with the following: ``and for which on". The question was put on Motion No. 25 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 168 and 226 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 169 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Clause 133 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out line 34, on page 69, and substituting the following: ``a 25 or 32 calibre cartridge,". The question was put on Motion No. 169 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 173, NAYS: 49. (See list under Division No. 262) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 27 of Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 12, be amended (a) by replacing lines 44 to 45, on page 13, with the following: ``1977 if the particular individual is the spouse or a brother, sister, child or descendent of an"; and (b) by adding after line 2, on page 14, the following: ``(7.1) Where the particular handgun referred to in subsection (6) was manufactured between 1945 and 1977, the particular individual referred to in subsection (7) is only eligible for the licence if the individual submits, with the application for the licence, a statutory declaration declaring the handgun to be a family heirloom and stating the reasons for that belief." The question was put on Motion No. 27 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 159, -- That Clause 113 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 19 to 25, on page 59, and substituting the following: ``tion certificate; (b) in the case of an individual referred to in subsection 12(2), (3), (4), (5), (6) or (8), to acquire and possess any prohibited firearms referred to in that subsection that are acquired by the holder on or after the commencement day; and (c) in the case of a particular individual who is eligible under subsection 12(7) to hold a licence authorizing the particular individual to possess a handgun referred to in subsection 12(6) (pre-February 14, 1995 handguns) in the circumstances described in subsection 12(7), to acquire and possess such a handgun in those circumstances, if the particular handgun is acquired by the particular individual on or after the commencement day." The question was put on Motion No. 159 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 152, NAYS: 71. (See list under Division No. 268) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 160 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding after line 40, on page 59, the following new Clause: ``113.1 (1) Every person who, immediately before the coming into force of any of subsections 106(1), 106.2(1) and 106.4(1), possessed a firearm without a firearm acquisition certificate because (a) the person possessed the firearm before January 1, 1979, or (b) the firearm acquisition certificate under which the person had acquired the firearm had expired, shall be deemed for the purposes of that subsection to be, until January 1, 2001 or such other date as is prescribed, the holder of a licence under which the person may possess the firearm. (2) Every person who, immediately before the coming into force of any of subsections 106(1), 106.2(1) and 106.4(1), possessed a firearm and was the holder of a firearm acquisition certificate shall be deemed for the purposes of that subsection to be, until January 1, 2001 or such other date as is prescribed, the holder of a licence under which the person may possess the firearm. (3) Every person who, at any time between the coming into force of subsection 106(1), 106.2(1) or 106.4(1) and the later of January 1, 1998 and such other date as is prescribed, possesses a firearm that, as of that date, is not a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, shall be deemed for the purposes of that subsection to be, until January 1, 2003 or such other date as is prescribed, the holder of a registration certificate for that firearm." The question was put on Motion No. 160 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 26 of Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 12, be amended (a) by replacing line 21, on page 13, with the following: ``February 28, 1995 a registration certificate"; and (b) by replacing line 25, on page 13, with the following: ``(a) on February 28, 1995". The question was put on Motion No. 26 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 273)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Hopkins -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Wood -- 8

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Morrison -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Scott (Skeena) -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 213

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young Accordingly, Motions Nos. 37, 44, 46, 86, 94 and 96 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 30 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 15. The question was put on Motion No. 30 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 77, NAYS: 146. (See list under Division No. 265) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 114 to 132, 151 and 263 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 31 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 4, on page 13, with the following: ``16. (1) A registration certificate for a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm may be issued to only one person. (2) Subsection (1) does not apply in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm for which a registration certificate". The question was put on Motion No. 31 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 32 of Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing lines 40 to 42, on page 14, with the following: ``of a firearm where (a) two spouses, who each hold a licence to possess the firearm, apply to have the registration certificate issued to them jointly; or (b) a registration certificate referred to in section 121 was issued for the firearm to more than one person." The question was put on Motion No. 32 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 8, NAYS: 213. (See list under Division No. 273) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 148 of Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 110, be amended by replacing line 44, on page 55, with the following: ``(p) subject to section 110.1, prescribing the fees that are to be paid to". The question was put on Motion No. 148 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 34, NAYS: 189. (See list under Division No. 264) Accordingly, Motion No. 153 was also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 149 of Mr. Brien (Témiscamingue), seconded by Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 110, be amended by replacing line 44, on page 55, with the following: ``(p) prescribing, after consultation with the committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to justice, for a period of twenty years following the coming into force of the regulations, the fees that are to be paid to". The question was put on Motion No. 149 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 34, NAYS: 189. (See list under Division No. 264) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 150 of Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), seconded by Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 110, be amended by replacing lines 3 to 5, on page 56, with the following: ``(q) prescribing, in a manner that is equal and fair for every one, the method of payment for the fees payable under paragraph (p);". The question was put on Motion No. 150 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 34, NAYS: 189. (See list under Division No. 264) Accordingly, Motion No. 152 was also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 155 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 111, be amended by replacing lines 44 to 46, on page 57, and lines 1 to 5, on page 58, with the following: ``(3) A proposed regulation that has been laid pursuant to subsection (1) may be made (a) on the expiration of thirty sitting days after it has been laid; or (b) at any time after it has been laid, where the federal Minister is of the opinion that the making of the regulation is urgent." The question was put on Motion No. 155 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 77, NAYS: 146. (See list under Division No. 265) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 156 and 157 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 161 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 121, be amended by replacing lines 40 to 43, on page 62, and lines 1 and 2, on page 63, with the following: ``(2) For greater certainty, a registration certificate that is deemed to be a registration certificate issued under section 58 is valid until it expires by virtue of section 64." The question was put on Motion No. 161 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motion No. 162 was also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 48 of Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Parry Sound -- Muskoka), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 29, be amended (a) by replacing lines 5 and 6, on page 21, with the following: ``relate or distinguish the one or more restricted firearms or handguns in his or her collection;"; and (b) by replacing line 10, on page 21, with the following: ``handguns collection is to be kept; and". The question was put on Motion No. 48 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 8, NAYS: 213. (See list under Division No. 273) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 53 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 31, be amended by replacing line 31, on page 21, with the following: ``sections 20 to 27, 29, 30, 39 to 41 and 45 to". The question was put on Motion No. 53 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 229 and 257 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 61 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by deleting Clause 34. The question was put on Motion No. 61 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 63 and 64 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 62 of Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), seconded by Mr. Culbert (Carleton -- Charlotte), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 34, be amended (a) by replacing lines 24 and 25, on page 22, with the following: ``licence may import a restricted firearm if, at the time of the"; and (b) by replacing lines 34 and 35, on page 22, with the following: -- ``(iii) produces an authorization to transport the". The question was put on Motion No. 62 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 8, NAYS: 213. (See list under Division No. 273) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 65, 67 and 68 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 66 of Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-68, in Clause 37, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 5, on page 25, with the following: ``(ii) produces his or her licence and, in the case of a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm, the registration certificate for the prohibited firearm or the restricted firearm and the authorization to transport the prohibited firearm or the restricted firearm; and". The question was put on Motion No. 66 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173. (See list under Division No. 261) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 75 of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Clause 45 of Bill C-68 be amended by striking out lines 8 to 13, on page 28, and substituting the following: ``(a) holds a licence authorizing it to acquire and possess those goods, except where those goods are to be shipped in transit through Canada by a business that does not carry on business in Canada;". The question was put on Motion No. 75 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 274)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wood -- 178

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 43

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young Accordingly, Motion No. 83 was also agreed to on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 84 of Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), -- That Bill C-68 be amended by adding immediately after line 34, on page 29, the following the new article: ``51.1 (1) A person shall not import or export a firearm that has not been rendered inoperative by a secure locking device. (2) For the purposes of this section, ``secure locking device" means a device that (a) cannot be opened or unlocked except with an electronic, magnetic or mechanical key or an alphanumeric combination lock; and (b) once installed on an unrestricted firearm or a restricted firearm, prevents it from shooting. (3) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. (4) A person who has been convicted of an offence under subsection (1) is deemed not to have been convicted of a criminal offence. (5) An offence referred to in subsection (1) does not constitute an offence for the purposes of the Criminal Records Act. (6) For greater certainty, notwithstanding subsection (4), the provisions of the Criminal Code relating to summary conviction offences apply to an offence referred to in subsection (1). (7) For greater certainty, nothing in this section prevents the punishment to which a person might otherwise be lawfully sentenced on a conviction for an offence referred to in subsection (1).'' The question was put on Motion No. 84 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 28, NAYS: 195. (See list under Division No. 269) Accordingly, Motion No. 135 was also negatived on the same division. Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-68, An Act respecting firearms and other weapons, as amended, be concurred in at report stage, with further amendments. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 275)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- 170

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Collins -- Cummins -- de Jong -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Steckle -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Ur -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- 58

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Calder -- Canuel -- Copps -- Crawford -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Godin -- Guimond -- Harper (Churchill) -- Irwin -- Lalonde -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- O'Reilly -- Proud -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Simmons -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage, with further amendments, and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House. MOTIONS Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That this House do now adjourn. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to. DELEGATED LEGISLATION Pursuant to Standing Order 125, the following motion of Mr. Lebel (Joint Chairman of the Standing Joint Committee on Scrutiny of Regulations) was deemed moved and adopted: That the 3rd Report of the Standing Joint Committee on Scrutiny of Regulations, presented to the House on Thursday, May 11, 1995, be concurred in. Accordingly, pursuant to Standing Order 123(1), it was ordered, -- That sections 23, 41 and 42 of the National Capital Commission Traffic and Property Regulations, C.R.C. 1978, c. 1044, be revoked. RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows: -- by the Speaker -- Amendments to the By-laws adopted by the Board of Internal Economy of the House of Commons, June 6, 1995, pursuant to subsection 52.5(2) of the Parliament of Canada Act, Chapter 20, Statutes of Canada, 1991. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-324G. -- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report on the administration of the Lobbyists Registration Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to subsection 11(2) of the Lobbyists Registration Act, Chapter 44 (4th Supp.), Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-587B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry) PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows: -- by Mr. Peric (Cambridge), concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-3489). ADJOURNMENT At 11:05 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).