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		<OrderOfBusiness><CatchLine></CatchLine><SubjectOfBusiness><SubjectOfBusinessContent><Timestamp Hr="09" Mn="50">(0950)</Timestamp><FloorLanguage language="EN">[<I>English</I>]</FloorLanguage><Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" id="2072654" ToCText=""><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair (Mr. Kevin Sorenson (Crowfoot, CPC))</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614172">Order. </ParaText><ParaText id="614173"> This is meeting number 55. We are going to move into committee business.</ParaText><ParaText id="614174">At the end of the last day we were discussing a motion that was brought forward by Mr. Patry. Has this been amended? </ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" id="2072655" ToCText="Mr. Patry"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102594" Type="2">Mr. Bernard Patry (Pierrefonds—Dollard, Lib.)</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614175">No.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071403"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614176">The motion reads:</ParaText><ParaText id="614177"><Quote><QuotePara Align="Left" IndentFirst="2" IndentRest="2">That pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development asks that the Department of National Defence provide a fulsome monthly table of the number of prisoners captured during our mission to date, how many have been handed over to Afghan authorities, and any records, if available, of their present status. This reporting is to coincide with the appearance of the Canadian officials and diplomats who wrote the report entitled <I>Afghanistan 2006: Good Governance, Democratic Development and Human Rights</I> before the Standing Committee. </QuotePara></Quote>
							</ParaText><ParaText id="614178">When we left off the last day, does our clerk know who was speaking?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" id="2071423" ToCText=""><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="81488" Type="27">The Clerk of the Committee (Mrs. Angela Crandall)</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614179">I think you were at Mr. Wilfert. No? Mr. Dosanjh.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071428"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="106184" Type="47">Hon. Ujjal Dosanjh (Vancouver South, Lib.)</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614180">Do you mean that this reporting “commences” with the appearance of the Canadian officials?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071429"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102594" Type="40">Mr. Bernard Patry</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614181">Yes, to coincide with....</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071431"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="106184" Type="47">Hon. Ujjal Dosanjh</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614182">No, “commences”, because if it coincides, that means whenever they appear next, and the following time, only then the report is made.... Are you asking for a monthly report?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071908"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102594" Type="40">Mr. Bernard Patry</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614183">A monthly report till now.... It's very diplomatic. We're just asking for a number; we're not asking for the name. We just want to see what the people are doing and that's it. </ParaText><ParaText id="614184">Yes, “coincide”.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071432"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614185">Mr. Obhrai.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" id="2071438" ToCText=""><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102204" Type="47">Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Calgary East, CPC)</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614186">I just want to ask the committee how our position was stated last time. Has the government's position been recorded?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071442"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="81488" Type="27">The Clerk</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614187">Nothing is recorded until the motion is voted on, actually. It's moved, debated, and--</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071444"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102204" Type="47">Mr. Deepak Obhrai</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614188">As part of the debate, I had stated for--</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071448"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="81488" Type="27">The Clerk</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614189">Yes, it's in the transcript.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2074197"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102204" Type="47">Mr. Deepak Obhrai</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614190">So I'm going to just repeat very quickly that due to the operational requirements, taking into account the Access to Information Act, which states that information may be exempted from release, as it could prove injurious to the conduct of Canada's international affairs.... The release of this information would be very beneficial to the enemy for information, for operations, and for this reason we cannot support this motion. That's the government's position, and it won't change, so I suggest we ask the question and vote on it.</ParaText><ParaText id="614191"><B>Some hon. members:</B> Agreed.</ParaText><ParaText id="614192"><B>Mr. Deepak Obhrai:</B> Ask the question and vote on it.</ParaText>
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					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071459"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614193">All right. We've had a call for the question on this motion. </ParaText><ParaText id="614194">(Motion agreed to)</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071460"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102204" Type="47">Mr. Deepak Obhrai</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614195">Can we have a break now and have coffee?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071462"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614196">No, listen, we're in committee business here, and I want to deal with one of those things that the chair never wants to deal with. </ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071467"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102594" Type="40">Mr. Bernard Patry</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614197">It's the draft report of the subcommittee.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2074293"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614198">Yes, that's exactly what I want to deal with, and I want to deal with it in public.</ParaText><ParaText id="614199"> Is this the China...? </ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2074294"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="81488" Type="27">The Clerk</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614200">No, this is the report from the subcommittee on what we suggested...the steering committee report.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071468"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614201">Okay, so we'll go back to something else, then.</ParaText><ParaText id="614202">Perhaps you have your steering committee report there. Your steering committee met on Tuesday afternoon and we came forward with these recommendations and this report:</ParaText><ParaText id="614203"><Quote><QuotePara Align="Left" IndentFirst="2" IndentRest="2">That the Committee refer the Third Report to the Subcommittee on International Human Rights concerning the issue of “comfort women” back to the Subcommittee for further study. </QuotePara></Quote></ParaText><ParaText id="614204">Are we in favour of this? The reason for this is they just did not have the witnesses, so we aren't about to deal with it. We'll send it back to the committee. Is there consensus on that?</ParaText><ParaText id="614205"><B>Some hon. members: </B> Agreed.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2072278"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614206">The second one is that the committee invite the Auditor General to appear before the committee.... This is in regard to her report. It probably will not be until the fall, but we'll leave that to the clerk. And this is with the DFAIT officials. Are you agreed?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071480"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102204" Type="47">Mr. Deepak Obhrai</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614207">Mr. Chair, if I understand correctly, what we had asked was the other way around. We had asked for the DFAIT officials to come and tell us what steps they had taken to meet the Auditor General's report. That was the--</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2072325"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102594" Type="47">Mr. Bernard Patry</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614208">That's what is written: “to apprise the Committee of any action that has been taken...”.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2072335"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102204" Type="47">Mr. Deepak Obhrai</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614209">So why are you calling the Auditor General?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2072343"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614210">In regard to the Auditor General's new report.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071483"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102594" Type="40">Mr. Bernard Patry</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614211"> That's fine. I agree.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071484"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614212">All right. So do we have consensus on that?</ParaText><ParaText id="614213">(Motion agreed to) [See <I>Minutes of Proceedings</I>]</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071511"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614214">The third one is that the committee invite Carlos Zorrilla to appear before the committee at an informal meeting on May 15, 2007, from 11:00 to 11:30. This is an informal meeting. He is a.... I don't want to tell you what he is.</ParaText><ParaText id="614215"><B>A voice:</B> Environment, from Ecuador. </ParaText><ParaText id="614216">(Motion agreed to) [See <I>Minutes of Proceedings</I>]</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2072244"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614217">The fourth one:</ParaText><ParaText id="614218"><Quote><QuotePara Align="Left" IndentFirst="2" IndentRest="2">That the committee refer a request for a meeting from Rights and Democracy with Ms. Suciwati and Mr. Hamid, Indonesian human rights defenders, on May 29, 2007, to the Subcommittee on International Human Rights. </QuotePara></Quote></ParaText><ParaText id="614219">We're recommending that they go to the subcommittee. It's human rights, so they can deal with it. </ParaText><ParaText id="614220">(Motion agreed to)</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2072475"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614221">Fifth:</ParaText><ParaText id="614222">
								<Quote><QuotePara Align="Left" IndentFirst="2" IndentRest="2">That the committee invite Ernie Regehr and the Honourable Doug Roche to appear before the committee on the issue of disarmament on the same date as the appearance of Paul Meyer, Canada's Ambassador for Disarmament. </QuotePara></Quote></ParaText><ParaText id="614223">Now, we have a little bit more information on that today to share with the committee—don't we, Angela?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" id="2072581" ToCText=""><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="81488" Type="27">The Clerk</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614224">Yes. The ambassador has said that he is able to come before the committee on May 31.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2072590"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614225">That timing works out perfectly. </ParaText><ParaText id="614226">So are we clear there?</ParaText><ParaText id="614227">(Motion agreed to)</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2072609"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614228">Then the sixth one:</ParaText><ParaText id="614229">
								<Quote><QuotePara Align="Left" IndentFirst="2" IndentRest="2">That the committee postpone its study of the report by the Subcommittee on International Human Rights on human rights in China until May 31, 2007.</QuotePara></Quote></ParaText>
							<ParaText id="614230">(Motion agreed to)</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<FloorLanguage language="FR">[<I>Translation</I>]</FloorLanguage><Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" id="2071517" ToCText=""><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102595" Type="40">Ms. Francine Lalonde (La Pointe-de-l'Île, BQ)</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614231">Do we have time for both?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<FloorLanguage language="EN">[<I>English</I>]</FloorLanguage><Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071521"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614232">Yes.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<FloorLanguage language="FR">[<I>Translation</I>]</FloorLanguage><Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" id="2074593" ToCText="Mrs. Barbot"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="106185" Type="2">Mrs. Vivian Barbot (Papineau, BQ)</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614233">Do we have a report on that; on human rights in China?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<FloorLanguage language="EN">[<I>English</I>]</FloorLanguage><Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2074596"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614234">Yes.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<FloorLanguage language="FR">[<I>Translation</I>]</FloorLanguage><Intervention Type="Debate" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2074597"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="106185" Type="2">Mrs. Vivian Barbot</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614235">I've never seen it. </ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<FloorLanguage language="EN">[<I>English</I>]</FloorLanguage><Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071522"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102204" Type="47">Mr. Deepak Obhrai</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614236">Now we can have coffee.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071523"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614237">No, we can't have coffee.</ParaText><ParaText id="614238">This is the part of committee business, unfortunately, that a chair does not like doing, but again, here is the problem: We have postponed a committee report on China to the 31st, and now it has been leaked, or parts of it have been leaked. It's quoted in <I>The Globe and Mail</I> today. They quote one member from the subcommittee. </ParaText><ParaText id="614239">Again, as I look around this table, most of you have a great deal of parliamentary experience, and you know that when reporters phone you on a report that has not been tabled we have no comment. We don't talk about the recommendations. We don't talk about the direction in which this report is going. We don't talk about what the government's response may be to this report. We don't talk about anything, because it's still not public. </ParaText><ParaText id="614240">Perhaps I'm not speaking to the group that I should be. Maybe I should be speaking to the subcommittee. But it is not right; it is not ethically right to start leaking these reports. I know people love to talk to reporters and they like to see their name in the paper, but in all fairness, until every individual of the committee has the opportunity to respond to this report, I would ask that you not speak to reporters. All right? So that's on the record.</ParaText><ParaText id="614241">Mr. Wilfert, then Mr. Goldring.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Timestamp Hr="09" Mn="55">(0955)</Timestamp><Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071558"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="99513" Type="47">Hon. Bryon Wilfert (Richmond Hill, Lib.)</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614242">I would concur, Mr. Chairman, that it's an embargoed report, it's confidential, and there should be no discussion whatsoever. Beyond that, I think we need to be very clear that, at any time, this obviously causes problems for all of us. It has already caused problems, because certain people now want to know more since it's out there.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071568"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614243">Yes.</ParaText><ParaText id="614244">Mr. Goldring, and then we will go to our second hour.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" id="2071569" ToCText=""><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102203" Type="47">Mr. Peter Goldring (Edmonton East, CPC)</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614245">If it can be determined who.... The report really isn't that clear. It mentions one person, and if that one person wants to acknowledge it, that's fine, but the report also says “MPs”, plural. If it was plural, then it was more than one. </ParaText><ParaText id="614246">At what point do you carry this forward? You have rules. You have breach of parliamentary privilege. You have things set in place. There's a reason to have the confidentiality, and this goes to the heart of the other reports we might be asking for, and information on prisoners and other things. If we intend to try to keep confidence in a committee and we don't have the rules and we don't reinforce the rules, then we have nothing. </ParaText><ParaText id="614247">Is this something that should be brought up as a point of parliamentary privilege to determine?</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071579"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614248"> That's a good question.</ParaText><ParaText id="614249"> I guess why I'm trying to chastise each one of us is so that, hopefully, each party will take the message back to their people.</ParaText><ParaText id="614250"> We had a case in subcommittee of an in camera meeting where there was a press release given on the in camera meeting.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071582"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102203" Type="47">Mr. Peter Goldring</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614251">Well, clearly, this one person mentioned should be questioned very directly--clearly. But the intimation of plural being more means that there should be more.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071586"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614252">All right.</ParaText><ParaText id="614253">Mr. Patry, a final word.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071587"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102594" Type="40">Mr. Bernard Patry</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614254">I just want to go back to Mr. Goldring. </ParaText><ParaText id="614255">Mr. Goldring, when you talk about MPs, with an “s”, it's the title, and a title is not the text from the person. This is what that person could have said: MPs. That's why they say MPs with an “s”.</ParaText><ParaText id="614256">Now, I've been on this committee for the past 14 years, and it has never occurred. All the members of this committee, the main committee of foreign affairs, are great about this. There was no leaking. I trust all my members. Nobody from our committee has done these things.</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
					<Intervention Type="Interjection" ToC="No" ToCText="" id="2071590"><PersonSpeaking><Affiliation DbId="102593" Type="35">The Chair</Affiliation>: </PersonSpeaking><Content><ParaText id="614257">And that's why I said that hopefully we can take it back to other people.</ParaText><ParaText id="614258"> That report has been around for some time. It's been with our staffers. It's been with the subcommittee. Each one of us makes sure that we keep the integrity of this thing going.</ParaText><ParaText id="614259">We will suspend for one minute, and then we will come back in camera.</ParaText><ParaText id="614260">[<I>Proceedings continue in camera</I>]</ParaText></Content></Intervention>
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