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Minutes of Proceedings

42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 124
Thursday, November 8, 2018, 8:01 a.m. to 12:55 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
John Barlow, Vice-Chair (Conservative)

House of Commons
• Olivier Champagne, Legislative Clerk
• Jacques Maziade, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Elizabeth Cahill, Analyst
• Havi Echenberg, Analyst
• Mayra Perez-Leclerc, Analyst
Department of Employment and Social Development
• James Van Raalte, Director General, Accessibility Secretariat
• Benoît Gendron, Director, Accessibility Secretariat
• Erik Lapalme, Senior Policy Analyst, Accessibility Secretariat
Pursuant to the Order of Reference of Wednesday, September 26, 2018, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-81, An Act to ensure a barrier-free Canada.

The Committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 21 of the Bill.

The witnesses answered questions.

On Clause 21,

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Monday, May 2, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81, in Clause 21, be amended by replacing line 3 on page 9 with the following:

“mandate. The directions are not binding on the Standards Organization.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Clause 21 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 0.

New Clause 21.1,

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Monday, May 2, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81 be amended by adding after line 5 on page 9 the following new clause:

“21.1 (1) No later than 90 days after receiving a recommendation from the Standards Organization regarding an accessibility standard, the Minister must decide whether or not to recommend to the Governor in Council that a regulation be made to implement the standard, either in whole or in part.

(2) The Minister must advise the Standards Organization in writing of the Minister’s decision.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Clause 22 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 23,

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 23, be amended

(a) by replacing line 10 on page 9 with the following:

“nor in Council to hold office”

(b) by adding after line 14 on page 9 the following:

“(1.1) The Chair is to be appointed on a full-time basis and the other directors are to be appointed on a part-time basis.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Monday, May 2, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 9 with the following:

“during good behaviour, subject to removal by the Governor in Council at any time for cause, for a term of not more than four years”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 23, be amended by adding after line 14 on page 9 the following:

“(1.1) The directors are to be appointed no later than six months after the day on which this subsection comes into force.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing lines 17 and 18 on page 9 with the following:

“(a) that at all times, as far as possible, two thirds of the directors are persons with disabilities;

(a.1) that at all times, as far as possible, one of the directors is an Indigenous person; and”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 23, be amended by adding after line 18 on page 9 the following:

“(a.1) that at all times, as far as possible, one of the directors is an Indigenous person; and”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 23, be amended by adding after line 20 on page 9 the following:

“(c) the importance of having directors that are representative of the diversity of disabilities faced by Canadians.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 23, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 24 and 25 carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 7; NAYS: 0.

Clause 26,

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Monday, May 2, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing line 17 on page 10 with the following:

“zation’s activities and affairs, including by establishing timelines for the realization, within 10 years after the day on which this section comes into force, of a Canada without barriers; and”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 26 to 29 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 30,

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Monday, May 2, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 11 with the following:

“to hold office on a full-time basis during good behaviour, subject to removal by the Governor in Council at any time for cause, for a”

The question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 0; NAYS: 5.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing line 12 on page 11 with the following:

“term of up to eight years.”

The question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Clause 30 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

On Clause 31,

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 31, be amended by replacing line 3 on page 12 with the following:

“must authorize a person to act as Chief Executive Offi-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Clause 31 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

On Clause 32,

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 32, be amended by adding after line 9 on page 12 the following:

“(1.1) Before selecting the members of a committee, the Chief Executive Officer must first consult the board of directors.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Clause 32 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 33,

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 33, be amended by adding after line 17 on page 12 the following:

“(2) Officers and employees must be provided with appropriate training in matters related to accessibility.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Clause 33 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On new Clause 33.1,

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81 be amended by adding before line 18 on page 12 the following new clause:

“33.1 (1) In carrying out its mandate, the Standards Organization must, on a continuing basis,

(a) hold public consultations on the accessibility standard it should next develop and on any proposed accessibility standard; and

(b) make available to the public progress reports respecting the development of accessibility standards.

(2) The Standards Organization must make available to the public the minutes of meetings of the board of directors and of advisory or other committees.

(3) For the purposes of subsection (2), the minutes of meetings must include the text of all proposed accessibility standards considered at the meeting.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Clause 34 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

Clause 35 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 1.

On Clause 36,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 36, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 3 on page 13 with the following:

“(2) The Minister must publish the report on the departmental website within 10 days after the day on which the report is received by”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 36 to 41 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 42,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 42, be amended by replacing line 20 on page 15 with the following:

“ferred to in paragraphs 5(c), (d) and (e), the area referred to in paragraph 5(c.1) as it relates to the areas referred to in paragraphs (d) and (e) and, if it is not sub-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 42, be amended by adding after line 3 on page 16 the following:

“(1.1) The accessibility plan must include a statement on how it will contribute to the realization of a Canada without barriers.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 42, be amended by replacing lines 11 and 12 on page 16 with the following:

“(3) The regulated entity must notify the Accessibility Commissioner, within”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 42, be amended

(a) by replacing line 17 on page 16 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its accessibility plan and”

(b) by replacing line 21 on page 16 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of the plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Cheryl Hardcastle — 1;

NAYS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 7.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 42, be amended by adding after line 3 on page 17 the following:

“(9) The regulated entity must take into account the principles set out in section 6 when it prepares an accessibility plan or an updated version of its accessibility plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 42, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

At 8:34 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 8:42 a.m., the sitting resumed.

On Clause 43,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 43, be amended by replacing lines 14 and 15 on page 17 with the following:

“(3) The regulated entity must notify the Accessibility Commissioner, within”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Clause 43 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 44,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 44, be amended by replacing lines 24 and 25 on page 17 with the following:

“(2) The regulated entity must notify the Accessibility Commissioner, within”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 44, be amended

(a) by replacing line 30 on page 17 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

(b) by replacing line 33 on page 17 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 0; NAYS: 5.

Clause 44 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 45,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 45, be amended by replacing, in the English version, lines 19 and 20 on page 18 with the following:

“tion 42(1), a day in respect of a regulated entity;”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 45, be amended by adding after line 23 on page 18 the following:

“(b.1) respecting the feedback process required by subsection 43(1);”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 45, be amended by adding after line 33 on page 18 the following:

“(1.1) The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission must make at least one regulation under subsection (1) within the period of two years that begins on the day on which this subsection comes into force.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 45, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 46,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 46, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 19 with the following:

“that the Commission considers necessary. The order ceases to have effect on the earlier of the end of the period of three years that begins on the day on which the order is made and the end of any shorter period specified in the order.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 46, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 19 with the following:

Gazette and the reasons for the making of the order must be made available to the public.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 46, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5;

NAYS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3.

On Clause 47,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 47, be amended by replacing line 19 on page 19 with the following:

“referred to in paragraphs 5(a), (b), (f) and (g) and in the area referred to in paragraph 5(c.1) as that paragraph applies in respect of the areas referred to in those paragraphs; and”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 47, be amended by adding after line 21 on page 19 the following:

“(1.1) The accessibility plan must include a statement on how it will contribute to the realization of a Canada without barriers.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 4.

At 8:59 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 9:01 a.m., the sitting resumed.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 47, be amended

(a) by replacing line 2 on page 20 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its accessibility plan and”

(b) by replacing line 6 on page 20 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of the plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 47, be amended by adding after line 24 on page 20 the following:

“(9) The regulated entity must take into account the principles set out in section 6 when it prepares an accessibility plan or an updated version of its accessibility plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 47, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 48 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 49,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 49, be amended

(a) by replacing line 16 on page 21 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

(b) by replacing line 19 on page 21 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Clause 49 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 50,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 50, be amended by replacing line 4 on page 22 with the following:

“that the Minister considers necessary. The order ceases to have effect on the earlier of the end of the period of three years that begins on the day on which the order is made and the end of any shorter period specified in the order.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 50, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 22 with the following:

Gazette and the reasons for the making of the order must be made available to the public.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 50, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 51,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 51, be amended by replacing line 22 on page 22 with the following:

“referred to in paragraphs 5(c), (d) and (e) and the area referred to in paragraph 5(c.1) as it relates to the areas referred to in paragraphs (d) and (e);”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 51, be amended by adding after line 2 on page 23 the following:

“(1.1) The accessibility plan must include a statement on how it will contribute to the realization of a Canada without barriers.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 51, be amended by replacing lines 10 and 11 on page 23 with the following:

“(3) The regulated entity must notify the Accessibility Commissioner, within”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 51, be amended

(a) by replacing line 16 on page 23 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its accessibility plan and”

(b) by replacing line 20 on page 23 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of the plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 51, be amended by adding after line 2 on page 24 the following:

“(9) The regulated entity must take into account the principles set out in section 6 when it prepares an accessibility plan or an updated version of its accessibility plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 51, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 52,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 52, be amended by replacing lines 13 and 14 on page 24 with the following:

“(3) The regulated entity must notify the Accessibility Commissioner, within”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Clause 52 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 53,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 53, be amended by replacing lines 23 and 24 on page 24 with the following:

“(2) The regulated entity must notify the Accessibility Commissioner, within”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 53, be amended

(a) by replacing line 29 on page 24 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

(b) by replacing line 32 on page 24 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Clause 53 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 54,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 54, be amended by replacing, in the English version, lines 19 and 20 on page 25 with the following:

“tion 5(1), a day in respect of a regulated entity;”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 54, be amended by adding after line 23 on page 25 the following:

“(b.1) respecting the feedback process required by subsection 52(1);”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 54, be amended by adding after line 33 on page 25 the following:

“(1.1) The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission must make at least one regulation under subsection (1) within the period of two years that begins on the day on which this subsection comes into force.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 54, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 55,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 55, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 26 with the following:

“that the Commission considers necessary. The order ceases to have effect on the earlier of the end of the period of three years that begins on the day on which the order is made and the end of any shorter period specified in the order.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 55, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 26 with the following:

Gazette and the reasons for the making of the order must be made available to the public.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 55, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5;

NAYS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3.

On Clause 56,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 56, be amended by replacing line 19 on page 26 with the following:

“ferred to in paragraphs 5(a), (b), (f) and (g) and in the area referred to in paragraph 5(c.1) as that paragraph applies in respect of the areas referred to in those paragraphs; and”

Debate arose thereon.

Wayne Long moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “that paragraph applies in respect of” with the words “it relates to”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

The question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 56, be amended by adding after line 21 on page 26 the following:

“(1.1) The accessibility plan must include a statement on how it will contribute to the realization of a Canada without barriers.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 56, be amended

(a) by replacing line 2 on page 27 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its accessibility plan and”

(b) by replacing line 6 on page 27 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of the plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 56, be amended by adding after line 24 on page 27 the following:

“(9) The regulated entity must take into account the principles set out in section 6 when it prepares an accessibility plan or an updated version of its accessibility plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 56, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 57 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 58,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 58, be amended

(a) by replacing line 16 on page 28 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

(b) by replacing line 19 on page 28 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Clause 58 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 59,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 59, be amended by replacing line 4 on page 29 with the following:

“that the Minister considers necessary. The order ceases to have effect on the earlier of the end of the period of three years that begins on the day on which the order is made and the end of any shorter period specified in the order.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 59, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 29 with the following:

Gazette and the reasons for the making of the order must be made available to the public.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 59, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5;

NAYS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3.

On Clause 60,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 60, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 28 on page 29 with the following:

“and the prevention of new barriers, in

(i) the areas referred to in paragraphs 5(c) and (d) to (f),

(ii) the built environment, to the extent that the built environment is a passenger aircraft, passenger train, passenger bus, passenger vessel, aerodrome passenger terminal, railway passenger station, bus passenger station or marine passenger terminal, and

(iii) the area referred to in paragraph 5(c.1) as it relates to the areas referred to in paragraphs 5(c) and (d) to (f) and to the built environment referred to in subparagraph (ii); and”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 60, be amended by adding after line 31 on page 29 the following:

“(1.1) The accessibility plan must include a statement on how it will contribute to the realization of a Canada without barriers.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 60, be amended by replacing lines 8 and 9 on page 30 with the following:

“(3) The regulated entity must notify the Accessibility Commissioner, within the time and in the manner pre-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 60, be amended

(a) by replacing line 13 on page 30 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its accessibility plan and”

(b) by replacing line 17 on page 30 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of the plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 60, be amended by adding after line 35 on page 30 the following:

“(9) The regulated entity must take into account the principles set out in section 6 when it prepares an accessibility plan or an updated version of its accessibility plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 60, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 61,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 61, be amended by replacing lines 11 and 12 on page 31 with the following:

“(3) The regulated entity must notify the Accessibility Commissioner, within the time and in the manner pre-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Clause 61 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 62,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 62, be amended by replacing lines 21 and 22 on page 31 with the following:

“(2) The regulated entity must notify the Accessibility Commissioner, within the time and in the manner pre-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 62, be amended

(a) by replacing line 26 on page 31 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

(b) by replacing line 29 on page 31 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Clause 62 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 63,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 63, be amended by adding after line 22 on page 32 the following:

“(b.1) respecting the feedback process required by subsection 61(1);”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 63, be amended by replacing, in the English version, lines 23 to 25 on page 32 with the following:

“(c) specifying the form and manner in which descriptions of the feedback process required by subsection 61(1) are to be published;”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 63, be amended by adding after line 32 on page 32 the following:

“(1.1) The Canadian Transportation Agency must make at least one regulation under subsection (1) within the period of two years that begins on the day on which this subsection comes into force.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 63, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 64,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 64, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 33 with the following:

“on any terms that the Agency considers necessary. The order ceases to have effect on the earlier of the end of the period of three years that begins on the day on which the order is made and the end of any shorter period specified in the order.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 64, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 33 with the following:

Gazette and the reasons for the making of the order must be made available to the public.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 64, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5;

NAYS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3.

On Clause 65,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 65, be amended by replacing lines 18 to 23 on page 33 with the following:

“and the prevention of new barriers, in

(i) the areas referred to in paragraphs 5(a) and (g),

(ii) the built environment, other than passenger aircrafts, passenger 20 trains, passenger buses, passenger vessels, aerodrome passenger terminals, railway passenger stations, bus passenger stations or marine passenger terminals, and

(iii) the area referred to in paragraph 5(c.1) as it relates to the areas referred to in paragraphs 5(a) and (g) and to the built environment referred to in subparagraph (ii); and”

Debate arose thereon.

Wayne Long moved, — That the amendment be amended by deleting, in the English version, the word “20”.

The question was put on the subamendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

The question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 65, be amended by adding after line 25 on page 33 the following:

“(1.1) The accessibility plan must include a statement on how it will contribute to the realization of a Canada without barriers.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 65, be amended

(a) by replacing line 5 on page 34 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its accessibility plan and”

(b) by replacing line 9 on page 34 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of the plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 65, be amended by adding after line 27 on page 34 the following:

“(9) The regulated entity must take into account the principles set out in section 6 when it prepares an accessibility plan or an updated version of its accessibility plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 65, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 66 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 67,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 67, be amended

(a) by replacing line 19 on page 35 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

(b) by replacing line 22 on page 35 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Clause 67 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 68,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 68, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 36 with the following:

“that the Minister considers necessary. The order ceases to have effect on the earlier of the end of the period of three years that begins on the day on which the order is made and the end of any shorter period specified in the order.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 68, be amended by replacing line 16 on page 36 with the following:

Gazette and the reasons for the making of the order must be made available to the public.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 68, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5;

NAYS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3.

On Clause 69,

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 69, be amended by adding after line 29 on page 36 the following:

“(1.1) The accessibility plan must include a statement on how it will contribute to the realization of a Canada without barriers.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 69, be amended

(a) by replacing line 13 on page 37 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its accessibility plan and”

(b) by replacing line 17 on page 37 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of the plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 69, be amended by adding after line 35 on page 37 the following:

“(9) The regulated entity must take into account the principles set out in section 6 when it prepares an accessibility plan or an updated version of its accessibility plan.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 69, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 70 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

At 10:01 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:15 a.m., the sitting resumed.

On Clause 71,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 71, be amended

(a) by replacing line 29 on page 38 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

(b) by replacing line 32 on page 38 with the following:

“abilities and, if applicable, the bargaining agents of its employees, in the preparation of its progress report.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Clause 71 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 72,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 72, be amended by replacing line 19 on page 39 with the following:

“that the Minister considers necessary. The order ceases to have effect on the earlier of the end of the period of three years that begins on the day on which the order is made and the end of any shorter period specified in the order.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 72, be amended by replacing line 26 on page 39 with the following:

Gazette and the reasons for the making of the order must be made available to the public.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 72, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 73 and 74 carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 8; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 75,

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 75, be amended by replacing line 31 on page 42 with the following:

“der subsection 117(1), he or she must make a compliance”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Clause 75 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 1.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 76 to 92 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 8; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 93,

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 93, be amended by replacing line 27 on page 50 with the following:

“93 The Accessibility Commissioner must make public”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Clause 93 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 94,

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 94, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 51 to line 3 on page 52 with the following:

“(2) For greater certainty, complaints in respect of a contravention of any provision of regulations made under subsection 117(1) may only be filed with the Accessibility Commissioner in accordance with subsection (1), and in the event of any inconsistency between the provisions of this Act and the provisions of the Federal Public Sector Labour Relations Act, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, the Public Service Employment Act or any other Acts of Parliament, the provisions of this Act prevail to the extent of the inconsistency.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Clause 94 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 95,

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 95, be amended by replacing line 7 on page 52 with the following:

“95 The Accessibility Commissioner must conduct an in-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 95, be amended by replacing line 21 on page 52 with the following:

“complainant became aware of more than one year, or any”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 8; NAYS: 0.

Clause 95, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 96 to 102 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 8; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 103,

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 103, be amended by adding after line 6 on page 56 the following:

“(1.1) The review must be conducted by a different officer or employee than the one who made the decision under review.

(1.2) The complainant must be given the opportunity to make representations to the officer or employee conducting the review in a manner that is accessible to the complainant.”

Debate arose thereon.

Wayne Long moved, — That the amendment be amended by deleting subsection (1.1).

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 3.

The question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 103, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 104,

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 104, be amended by replacing line 27 on page 56 with the following:

“order or notice of the decision is served or any longer period — that is not more than 60 days after that day — that the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal considers appropriate in the circumstances.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Gordie Hogg moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 104, be amended by adding after line 27 on page 56 the following:

“(1.1) The appeal lies on any ground of appeal that involves a question of law or fact alone, or a question of mixed law and fact, including a principle of natural justice.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Gordie Hogg and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 104, be amended by replacing line 29 on page 56 with the following:

“the grounds of appeal and set out the evidence that supports those grounds.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 104, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 105 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 106,

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 106, be amended by replacing lines 9 and 10 on page 57 with the following:

“may, by order, confirm, vary, give the decision that the Accessibility Commissioner should have given or rescind the decision or order to which the appeal relates or refer the complaint back to the Accessibility Commissioner for reconsideration in accordance with any direction the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal may give.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Gordie Hogg moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 106, be amended by adding after line 10 on page 57 the following:

“(1.1) An appeal shall be on the merits based on the record of the proceedings before the Accessibility Commissioner, but the member or panel of members of the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal shall allow arguments and, if he, she or it considers it necessary for the purposes of the appeal, shall hear evidence not previously available.”

Debate arose thereon.

At 11:03 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:05 a.m., the sitting resumed.

The Committee resumed consideration of the amendment of Gordie Hogg, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 106, be amended by adding after line 10 on page 57 the following:

“(1.1) An appeal shall be on the merits based on the record of the proceedings before the Accessibility Commissioner, but the member or panel of members of the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal shall allow arguments and, if he, she or it considers it necessary for the purposes of the appeal, shall hear evidence not previously available.”

The question was put on the amendment of Gordie Hogg and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 7; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 106, be amended by adding after line 14 on page 57 the following:

“(3) A copy of the order made by the member or panel of members of the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal must be provided to the Accessibility Commissioner and the parties to the appeal.

(4) Every decision made under subsection (1) is final and is not to be questioned or reviewed in any court.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 106, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 107 to 110 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 111,

Cheryl Hardcastle moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 111, be amended by replacing, in the English version, line 3 on page 58 with the following:

“111 (1) The Governor in Council must appoint, on a full-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Cheryl Hardcastle and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 111, be amended by adding after line 5 on page 58 the following:

“(1.1) The Chief Accessibility Officer is to be appointed no later than six months after the day on which this subsection comes into force.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Clause 111 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 112 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 113,

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 113, be amended by replacing line 4 on page 59 with the following:

“ed to do so by the Minister, must — provide information or advice to the Minister in”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 113, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 0.

On New Clause 113.1,

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Monday, May 2, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81 be amended by adding after line 5 on page 59 the following new clause:

“113.1 The Chief Accessibility Officer must develop the tools and take the measures necessary to enable departments, boards and agencies of the Government of Canada to undertake an ongoing disability-based analysis of the impact of federal laws, policies, programs and projects.”

The question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 0; NAYS: 5.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 114 to 116 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 117,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 117, be amended by replacing lines 20 to 22 on page 60 with the following:

“(f.1) respecting the feedback process required by subsections 48(1), 57(1), 66(1) and 70(1);

(g) specifying the form and manner in which descriptions of the feedback process required by subsections 48(1), 57(1), 66(1) and 70(1) are to be published;”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 117, be amended by deleting lines 3 to 15 on page 61.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

The Chair ruled that the following amendment was consequential to the previous amendment and therefore it was also negatived:

That Bill C-81, in Clause 142, be amended by replacing line 7 on page 72 with the following:

“117(1)(a) to (k) — and under paragraph 117(1)(m) with re-”

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 117, be amended by adding after line 18 on page 61 the following:

“(1.1) The Governor in Council must make at least one regulation under any of paragraphs (1)(e) to (h) within the period of two years that begins on the day on which this subsection comes into force.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 117, be amended by adding after line 28 on page 61 the following:

“(5) The Minister must table in each House of Parliament every regulation that the Governor in Council proposes to make under paragraph 117(1)(c).

(6) Each House may refer the proposed regulation to any committee that is appropriate under the rules of that House and, if the proposed regulation is so referred, the committee may review it and report its recommendations to the House.

(7) A regulation may not be made before the earliest of

(a) 30 sitting days after the proposed regulation is tabled in both Houses;

(b) 160 calendar days after the proposed regulation is tabled in both Houses; and

(c) the day after the committee reports its recommendations or, if the proposed regulation was referred to more than one committee, the day after the last report.

(8) For the purposes of subsection (7), sitting day means a day on which either House sits.

(9) The Minister must take into account any report of the committee of either House. If a regulation does not incorporate a recommendation of the committee of either House, the Minister must table before that House a statement of the reason for not incorporating it.

(10) A proposed regulation that has been tabled in Parliament need not be tabled again before the regulation is made, whether or not it has been altered.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Clause 117, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

On Clause 118,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 118, be amended by replacing line 6 on page 62 with the following:

“paragraphs 5(a), (b), (f) and (g) and in the area referred to in paragraph 5(c.1) as that paragraph applies in respect of the areas referred to in those paragraphs.”

Debate arose thereon.

Wayne Long moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing, in the English version, the words “that paragraph applies in respect of” with the words “it relates to”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

The question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 118, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 119,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 119, be amended by replacing line 28 on page 62 with the following:

“referred to in paragraphs 5(a), (b), (f) and (g) and in the area referred to in paragraph 5(c.1) as that paragraph applies in respect of the areas referred to in those paragraphs.”

Debate arose thereon.

Wayne Long moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing, in the English version, the words “that paragraph applies in respect of” with the word “it relates to”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

The question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 119, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 120,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 120, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 63 with the following:

“(c) the procurement of goods, services and facilities that are not”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 120, be amended by replacing lines 15 to 17 on page 63 with the following:

“related to the mobility of persons with disabilities;

(d) areas designated under regulations made under paragraph 117(1)(b); and

(e) the area referred to in paragraph 5(c.1) as that paragraph applies in respect of the areas referred to paragraphs (a) to (d).”

Debate arose thereon.

Wayne Long moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing, in the English version, the words “that paragraph applies in respect of” with the words “it relates to”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

The question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 120, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 121,

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 121, be amended by adding after line 32 on page 63 the following:

“The order ceases to have effect on the earlier of the end of the period of three years that begins on the day on which the order is made and the end of any shorter period specified in the order.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 121, be amended by replacing line 38 on page 63 with the following:

“be published in the Canada Gazette and the reasons for the making of the order must be made available to the public.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 121, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On New Clause 121.1,

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Tuesday, May 3, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81 be amended by adding after line 38 on page 63 the following new clause:

“121.1 (1) If no regulations are made under paragraph 117(1)(c) within 12 months after the day on which this section comes into force, the Minister must cause a report to be laid before each House of Parliament on any of the first 10 days on which that House is sitting after the expiry of that 12-month period.

(2) If no such regulations are made within 12 months after the tabling of the report referred to in subsection (1), the Minister must cause a report to be laid before each House of Parliament on any of the first 10 days on which that House is sitting after the expiry of that 12-month period and at least once every subsequent 12-month period as long as no regulations have been made.

(3) The reports must include an explanation of why regulations have not been made and must establish a schedule for the making of such regulations.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Monday, May 2, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81 be amended by adding after line 38 on page 63 the following new clause:

“121.1 (1) The Minister must cause an independent review of the regulations made under paragraph 117(1)(c) to be conducted from time to time in order to assess whether the regulations contribute to the progressive realization of a Canada without barriers and whether any regulation should be amended.

(2) The first review must be conducted within five years after the day on which the first regulation is made under paragraph 117(1)(c).

(3) The Minister must cause the report on a review conducted under subsection (1) to be laid before each House of Parliament on any of the first 15 days on which that House is sitting after the review is completed and within every five-year period after the tabling of a report under this subsection.”

The question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.

Clause 122 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 2.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 123 to 130 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 131,

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Monday, May 2, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81, in Clause 131, be amended by replacing lines 31 and 32 on page 66 with the following:

“131 (1) Five years after the day on which this section comes into force, or as soon as fea-”

The question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 0; NAYS: 5.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 131, be amended by replacing lines 31 and 32 on page 66 with the following:

“131 (1) Five years after the day on which this Act receives royal assent, or as soon as feasible after that day, a comprehensive review of its provisions and operation is to be commenced by a”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Clause 131 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

Clause 132,

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Monday, May 2, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81, in Clause 132, be amended by replacing lines 9 to 11 on page 67 with the following:

“132 (1) No later than December 31, 2025, and every four years after that, the”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 132, be amended by replacing line 17 on page 67 with the following:

“(2) The person or persons conducting the review must consult the”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 132, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 133 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

New Clause 133.1,

Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Monday, May 2, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-81 be amended by adding after line 24 on page 67 the following new clause:

“Sign Language

133.1 The sign languages known as “American Sign Language” and “Langue des signes québécoise” are recognized as the official sign languages of the hearing loss community.”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 134 to 137 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

After debate, Clause 138 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 2.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 139 to 141 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 142 to 146 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 147 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 148,

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 148, be amended by adding after line 9 on page 77 the following:

“(1.1) The Accessibility Commissioner is to be appointed no later than six months after the day on which this subsection comes into force.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 148, be amended by adding after line 14 on page 77 the following:

“(2) Section 26 of the Act is amended by adding the following after subsection (5):

(6) The Accessibility Commissioner must receive appropriate training in matters related to accessibility and discrimination.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.

Clause 148 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 149,

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 149, be amended by replacing lines 17 and 18 on page 77 with the following:

“28.1 The Commission is, for the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3 of article 33 of the Convention on the Rights of Persons”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Clause 149 carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 150 to 153 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 154,

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 154, be amended by replacing, in the English version, line 36 on page 78 with the following:

“fered physical or psychological harm, property damage or”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 154, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 155,

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 155, be amended by replacing, in the English version, line 10 on page 79 with the following:

“has suffered physical or psychological harm, property”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 155, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 156 to 162 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

At 12:05 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:22 p.m., the sitting resumed.

On Clause 163,

Dan Ruimy moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 163, be amended by replacing, in the French version, line 14 on page 81 with the following:

“ticles 51 à 53 de la Loi canadienne sur l’accessibilité ou d’une”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Ruimy and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 163, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 164 to 168 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 169,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 169, be amended by replacing line 8 on page 84 with the following:

“an impairment, including a physical, mental, intellectual, cognitive, learning, communication”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 169, be amended by replacing lines 11 to 14 on page 84 with the following:

disability means any impairment, including a physical, mental, intellectual, cognitive, learning, communication or sensory impairment — or a functional limitation — whether permanent, temporary or episodic in nature, or evident or not, that, in interaction with a barrier, hin-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 169, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 170,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 170, be amended by replacing line 24 on page 84 with the following:

“communication technologies and the design and delivery of pro-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Wayne Long moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 170, be amended by adding after line 11 on page 85 the following:

“The order ceases to have effect on the earlier of the end of the period of three years that begins on the day on which the order is made and the end of any shorter period specified in the order.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Wayne Long and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Clause 170, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 171 to 206 inclusive carried severally by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

On Clause 207,

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 207, be amended by replacing lines 28 and 29 on page 103 with the following:

“206, come into force on the 90th day after the day on which this Act receives royal assent.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 207, be amended by replacing lines 28 and 29 on page 103 with the following:

“206, come into force on the 60th day after the day on which this Act receives royal assent.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Rosemarie Falk moved, — That Bill C-81, in Clause 207, be amended by replacing lines 28 and 29 on page 103 with the following:

“206, come into force on the 30th day after the day on which this Act receives royal assent.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rosemarie Falk and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk, Cheryl Hardcastle — 3;

NAYS: Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 5.

Clause 207 carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Cheryl Hardcastle, Gordie Hogg, Wayne Long, Robert J. Morrissey, Dan Ruimy, Ramesh Sangha — 6;

NAYS: Kerry Diotte, Rosemarie Falk — 2.

At 12:39 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:40 p.m., the sitting resumed.

On Preamble,

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That Bill C-81, in the preamble, be amended by

(a) adding after line 16 on page 1 the following:

“Whereas the Government of Canada is committed, in relation to the identification and removal of barriers to accessibility and the prevention of new barriers to accessibility, to ensuring respect for the rights of the Indigenous peoples of Canada recognized and affirmed by section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982;”

(b) replacing lines 22 and 23 on page 1 with the following:

“Whereas barriers to accessibility can impact all persons, in particular those with disabilities and their”

(c) replacing line 29 on page 1 with the following:

“of all persons in Canada, regardless of their dis-”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in the preamble, be amended by adding after line 16 on page 1 the following:

“Whereas Parliament understands the importance of consulting Indigenous communities regarding the identification, removal and prevention of barriers to accessibility;”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

Kerry Diotte moved, — That Bill C-81, in the preamble, be amended

(a) by replacing lines 22 and 23 on page 1 with the following:

“Whereas barriers to accessibility can impact all persons in Canada, in particular those with disabilities and their”

(b) by replacing line 29 on page 1 with the following:

“of all persons in Canada, regardless of their abilities or dis-”

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That the amendment be amended by deleting the words “abilities or”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Robert J. Morrissey and it was agreed to.

The question was put on the amendment of Kerry Diotte, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 8; NAYS: 0.

The Preamble, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Clause 1, Short Title, carried.

The Title carried.

The Bill, as amended, carried.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House.

ORDERED, — That Bill C-81, as amended, be reprinted for the use of the House at report stage.

At 12:55 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Stephanie Feldman
Clerk of the Committee