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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 3
Thursday, January 20, 2022, 11:01 a.m. to 1:01 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Ken McDonald, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Erica Pereira, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Michael Chalupovitsch, Analyst
• Thai Nguyen, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion moved by Serge Cormier on Tuesday, January 18, 2022, which read as follows:

— That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study to examine the fishery management measures put in place to protect North Atlantic right whales, in order to evaluate the impact these measures have had on the reduction of right whale deaths in Atlantic Canada and Quebec as well as the impact on the economy of coastal communities in these regions and to provide the government with options and recommendations to improve these measures; that the committee call witnesses including senior officials from the Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada and interested stakeholder groups to testify before the committee; that the committee present its conclusions and recommendations in a report to the House; and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to this report.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Motion

Rick Perkins moved, — That the following reports of this committee in the Second Session of the 43rd Parliament be adopted as reports in this session:

  • report 1, Striped Bass in the Southern Gulf of St. Lawrence and Miramichi River: Striking a Delicate Balance;
  • report 4, Implementation of the Mi’kmaw and Maliseet Treaty Right to Fish in Pursuit of a Moderate Livelihood; and

that the Chair present the reports to the House.

Amendment

Ken Hardie moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words reports to the House” the following: “and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to these reports”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Ken Hardie and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Lisa Marie Barron, Serge Cormier, Caroline Desbiens, Ken Hardie, Mike Kelloway, Michael V. McLeod, Robert J. Morrissey — 7;

NAYS: Mel Arnold, Rick Perkins, Clifford Small, Bob Zimmer — 4.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the following reports of this committee in the Second Session of the 43rd Parliament be adopted as reports in this session:

  • report 1, Striped Bass in the Southern Gulf of St. Lawrence and Miramichi River: Striking a Delicate Balance;
  • report 4, Implementation of the Mi’kmaw and Maliseet Treaty Right to Fish in Pursuit of a Moderate Livelihood; and

that the Chair present the reports to the House and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to these reports.

Motion

Caroline Desbiens moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study on foreign ownership and corporate concentration of fishing licenses and quota through transactional agreements and review the Department of Fisheries and Oceans’ process for allocating and transferring commercial fishing licenses and quota; that the committee receive witness testimony from officials from the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, industry representatives, and experts; that the committee also accept written briefs from individuals and organizations who wish to submit input; that the committee hold five meetings for this study; and that the committee report its conclusions and recommendations to the House.

At 11:26 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:29 a.m., the sitting resumed.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Motion

Lisa Marie Barron moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study of marine cargo container spills on Canada’s marine environment with regard to (i) the environmental impacts of cargo container spills; (ii) improving response times and efficacy to cargo spills; (iii) addressing jurisdictional gaps to improve collaboration with volunteer, charitable organizations, provincial and territorial agencies, municipalities, and indigenous communities during spill responses; (iv) improving polluter responsibility and financial accountability; that no fewer than four meetings be allocated for this study; and that following this study, the committee present a report to the House.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Motion

Rick Perkins moved, — That the following report of this committee in the Second Session of the 43rd Parliament be adopted as a report in this session:

  • report 2, Aquatic Invasive Species: A National Priority; and

that the Chair present the report to the House.

Amendment

Ken Hardie moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “report to the House” the following: “and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to the report”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Ken Hardie and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Serge Cormier, Ken Hardie, Mike Kelloway, Michael V. McLeod, Robert J. Morrissey — 5;

NAYS: Mel Arnold, Lisa Marie Barron, Caroline Desbiens, Rick Perkins, Clifford Small, Bob Zimmer — 6.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Mel Arnold, Lisa Marie Barron, Serge Cormier, Caroline Desbiens, Michael V. McLeod, Robert J. Morrissey, Rick Perkins, Clifford Small, Bob Zimmer — 9;

NAYS: Ken Hardie, Mike Kelloway — 2.

Motion

Caroline Desbiens moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study on the Small Craft Harbours program, particularly its findings regarding the divestiture of wharves; that the committee invite the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, experts, government officials and industry stakeholders to discuss this issue, that the committee hold at least four meetings to do so; that the committee report its findings and recommendations to the House; and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to the report.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Motion

Rick Perkins moved, — That the committee undertake a study examining systems and requirements pertaining to at sea safety of commercial harvesters including Transport Canada regulations related to vessel design, safety requirements and seaworthiness; examining the federal commercial training courses and licensing requirements of mariners before going to sea and upgrading of skills as required; examining the Canadian Coast Guard’s search and rescue capabilities and response rates; that the committee allot no fewer than six two-hour meetings to receive the testimony; that the committee also accept written briefs from individuals or organizations who wish to submit input; and that the committee submit its findings with recommendations in a report to the House.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “report to the House” the following: “and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to the report”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert J. Morrissey and it was agreed to on division.

The debate on the motion, as amended, continued.

Amendment

Caroline Desbiens moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “response rates” the following: “while analyzing both official languages”.

Debate arose thereon.

At 12:17 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:19 p.m., the sitting resumed.

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

The debate on the motion, as amended, continued.

Amendment

Caroline Desbiens moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “and response rates” the following: “by analyzing the capacity of services offered in both official languages”.

Debate arose thereon.

Subamendment

Ken Hardie moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “and response rates by analyzing the capacity of services offered in both official languages” with the following “including service in both official languages and response rates”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Ken Hardie and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Caroline Desbiens, as amended, and it was agreed to on division.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Mel Arnold, Lisa Marie Barron, Serge Cormier, Caroline Desbiens, Ken Hardie, Mike Kelloway, Michael V. McLeod, Robert J. Morrissey, Rick Perkins, Clifford Small, Bob Zimmer — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the committee undertake a study examining systems and requirements pertaining to at sea safety of commercial harvesters including Transport Canada regulations related to vessel design, safety requirements and seaworthiness; examining the federal commercial training courses and licensing requirements of mariners before going to sea and upgrading of skills as required; examining the Canadian Coast Guard’s search and rescue capabilities including service in both official languages and response rates; that the committee allot no fewer than six two-hour meetings to receive the testimony; that the committee also accept written briefs from individuals or organizations who wish to submit input; that the committee submit its findings with recommendations in a report to the House; and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to the report.

On motion of Mike Kelloway, it was agreed, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study to examine the impact of climate change on our oceans and the role oceans can play in carbon sequestration; that the committee meet for no less than six meetings in relation to the study; that each party send a list of witnesses, by priority, including their contact information to the Clerk of the Committee; that the committee report its findings to the House and; that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government table a comprehensive response.

Motion

Caroline Desbiens moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study on the introduction of recreational saltwater fishing licences in eastern Quebec; that the committee invite the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, as well as experts, citizens and fishers to appear; that the committee hold no less than five meetings; and that the committee present its findings and recommendations to the House.

Amendment

Rick Perkins moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “eastern Quebec” the following: “and in Atlantic Canada”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rick Perkins and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Mel Arnold, Lisa Marie Barron, Caroline Desbiens, Rick Perkins, Clifford Small, Bob Zimmer — 6;

NAYS: — 0.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Mel Arnold, Lisa Marie Barron, Caroline Desbiens, Rick Perkins, Clifford Small, Bob Zimmer — 6;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study on the introduction of recreational saltwater fishing licences in eastern Quebec and in Atlantic Canada; that the committee invite the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, as well as experts, citizens and fishers to appear; that the committee hold no less than five meetings; and that the committee present its findings and recommendations to the House.

Motion

Mel Arnold moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study of at least six meetings to examine how the Department of Fisheries and Oceans prioritizes, resources and develops scientific studies and advice for the department and how the minister applies data and advice provided by the department and other government departments to ministerial decisions; that the committee call witnesses including the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, senior department officials from the Department of Fisheries and Oceans and persons who have directly contributed to the department’s science and science processes to testify; that the committee hear from no fewer than 20 witnesses; and that the committee report its conclusions and recommendations to the House.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee commenced its study of the impact of the rapid increase of the striped bass in the Miramichi River and the Gulf of St. Lawrence.

It was agreed, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to the report.

ORDERED, — That the Chair present the report to the House.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee commenced its study of the implementation of Mi’kmaq Treaty Fishing Rights to support a moderate livelihood.

It was agreed, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to the report.

ORDERED, — That the Chair present the report to the House.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee commenced its study of aquatic invasive species.

ORDERED, — That the Chair present the report to the House.

At 1:01 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Tina Miller
Clerk of the committee