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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 17
Friday, February 26, 2021, 1:00 p.m. to 3:17 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Scott Simms, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Gabrielle de Billy Brown, Analyst
• Marion Ménard, Analyst
As an individual
• Richard Stursberg, President, Aljess
Corus Entertainment Inc.
• Troy Reeb, Executive Vice-President, Broadcast Networks
Fédération des télévisions communautaires autonomes du Québec
• Amélie Hinse, Director General
• Catherine Edwards, Executive Director, Canadian Association of Community Television Users and Stations
Netflix
• Stéphane Cardin, Director, Public Policy
Rogers Communications Inc.
• Pam Dinsmore, Vice-President, Regulatory Cable
• Susan Wheeler, Vice-President, Regulatory Media
Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada
• Geneviève Côté, Chief Quebec Affairs and Visual Arts Officer
• Martin Lavallée, Senior Legal Counsel
Pursuant to the order of reference of Tuesday, February 16, 2021, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-10, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts.

Geneviève Côté, Martin Lavallée, Troy Reeb and Richard Stursberg made statements and answered questions.

At 2:03 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 2:08 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Amélie Hinse, Stéphane Cardin, Pam Dinsmore and Susan Wheeler made statements and, with Catherine Edwards, answered questions.

Motion

Heather McPherson moved, — That the committee call on the Minister of Canadian Heritage to provide the committee with the policy direction order intended for the Governor in Council, or any other documents pertaining to the regulation of online broadcasting undertakings, in relation to Bill C-10.

On motion of Julie Dabrusin, it was agreed, — That the motion be amended by adding the word “draft” before the word “policy”.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the committee call on the Minister of Canadian Heritage to provide the committee with the draft policy direction order intended for the Governor in Council, or any other documents pertaining to the regulation of online broadcasting undertakings, in relation to Bill C-10.

Motion

Heather McPherson moved, — That the committee invite Kevin Chan, Global Director and Head of Public Policy of Facebook Canada for a follow-up meeting regarding his testimony on the relations between Facebook and the federal government on January 29, 2021; and that he address Facebook’s recent decision to ban Australian journalistic content from its social network.

Amendment

Anthony Housefather moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing all the words after “That the committee” with the following:

“invite Facebook, Inc. for a follow-up meeting regarding the subjects raised during its testimony before the Committee on January 29, 2021, and also to address Facebook’s recent actions in Australia related to the Australian Government’s consideration and adoption of the News Media Bargaining Code; that, both Mark Zuckerberg, CEO and Mr. Kevin Chan, Global Director and Head of Public Policy, Canada testify on behalf of Facebook Inc.; and, that the Chair find a time in a non-sitting week in March for this meeting, based on Facebook’s availability”.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible, as it was outside the scope of the main motion.

The debate resumed on the motion.

Amendment

By unanimous consent, Anthony Housefather moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing all the words after “That the committee” with the following:

“invite Facebook, Inc. for a follow-up meeting regarding the subjects raised during its testimony before the Committee on January 29, 2021, and also to address Facebook’s recent actions in Australia related to the Australian Government’s consideration and adoption of the News Media Bargaining Code; that, both Mark Zuckerberg, CEO and Mr. Kevin Chan, Global Director and Head of Public Policy, Canada testify on behalf of Facebook Inc.; and, that the Chair find a time in a non-sitting week in March for this meeting, based on Facebook’s availability”.

The question was put on the amendment of Anthony Housefather and it was agreed to.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the committee invite Facebook, Inc. for a follow-up meeting regarding the subjects raised during its testimony before the Committee on January 29, 2021, and also to address Facebook’s recent actions in Australia related to the Australian Government’s consideration and adoption of the News Media Bargaining Code; that, both Mark Zuckerberg, CEO and Mr. Kevin Chan, Global Director and Head of Public Policy, Canada testify on behalf of Facebook Inc.; and, that the Chair find a time in a non-sitting week in March for this meeting, based on Facebook’s availability.

At 3:17 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Aimée Belmore
Clerk of the Committee