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Minutes of Proceedings
Francoise Vanni made a statement and answered questions.
At 12:06 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:07 p.m., the sitting resumed.
Michael D. Chong moved, — That the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development supports the full participation of Taiwan in the International Civil Aviation Organization and its 41st Triennial Assembly to be held on September 27, 2022 to October 14, 2022; that this be reported to the House as soon as possible; and that the committee request a government response.
Debate arose thereon.
Robert Oliphant moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “participation of Taiwan in the International Civil Aviation Organization” the following: “while respecting the membership requirements of the organization”.
Debate arose thereon.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert Oliphant and it was agreed to.
After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.
The motion, as amended, read as follows:
That the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development supports the full participation of Taiwan in the International Civil Aviation Organization, while respecting the membership requirements of the organization, and its 41st Triennial Assembly to be held on September 27, 2022 to October 14, 2022; that this be reported to the House as soon as possible, and that the committee request a government response.
Hedy Fry moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), given recent reports of international backsliding related to women’s sexual and reproductive health and rights, the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs undertake a comprehensive study on the global access to the full range of health services, including family planning and modern contraception; comprehensive sexuality education; safe and legal abortion and post-abortion care; laws restricting or prohibiting women’s rights to abortion, the medical and socioeconomic importance of maintaining the right to access safe abortion; and prevention and treatment of HIV/AIDS and sexually transmitted infections and what actions Canada can undertake to support women’s sexual and reproductive health and rights globally; that the committee hold no fewer than (5) five meetings; and that the committee report its findings to the House.
At 12:37 p.m., Stéphane Bergeron took the Chair.
Garnett Genuis moved, — That the motion be referred to the subcommittee on agenda and procedure.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Michael D. Chong, Eric Duncan, Garnett Genuis, Larry Maguire — 4;
NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Ali Ehsassi, Hedy Fry, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai — 6.
Garnett Genuis moved, — That the debate be adjourned until such time as the Committee has completed its other work.
After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Michael D. Chong, Eric Duncan, Garnett Genuis, Larry Maguire — 4;
NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Ali Ehsassi, Hedy Fry, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai — 6.
Michael D. Chong moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “given recent reports of international backsliding related to women’s sexual and reproductive health and rights”.
After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Michael D. Chong, Eric Duncan, Garnett Genuis, Larry Maguire — 4;
NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Ali Ehsassi, Hedy Fry, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai — 6.
Garnett Genuis moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “that the committee hold no fewer than (5) five meetings”.
Debate arose thereon.
A point of order was raised as to relevance.
RULING BY THE VICE-CHAIR
The Vice-Chair ruled that Members are typically given a large degree of latitude when applying the relevance rule, and that the Member may continue.
The debate on the amendment continued.
At 1:40 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 3:47 p.m., the sitting resumed, Sven Spengemann presiding.
Garnett Genuis moved, — That the debate be adjourned on this motion until the Committee has completed its work on Ukraine.
Debate arose thereon.
A point of order was raised as to relevance.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that while Members are typically given a large degree of latitude, the Member should remain as relevant as possible.
At 5:02 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), the sitting was suspended.
At 5:55 p.m., the sitting resumed.
Garnett Genuis moved, — That the committee do now adjourn.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Michael D. Chong, Eric Duncan, Garnett Genuis — 3;
NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Stéphane Bergeron, Ali Ehsassi, Hedy Fry, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai — 7.
The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Garnett Genuis which read as follows:
That the debate be adjourned on this motion until the Committee has completed its work on Ukraine.
At 6:01 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 7:45 p.m., the sitting resumed.
A point of order was raised as to relevance.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that the debate was still marginally relevant, but Members should be as concise as possible.
A point of order was raised as to the procedural admissibility of the current debate, namely that a decision once made must stand.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that once the committee pronounces itself on a topic, in this particular case defeating an amendment, it does prevent the same amendment from being moved again. He also stated that having defeated an amendment does not prevent Members from being able to discuss that part of the motion and refer to it in debate, and declared that the Member was in order.
The debate continued.
At 8:40 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
Thursday, May 19, 2022, at 3:37 p.m., the sitting resumed, Stéphane Bergeron presiding.
The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Garnett Genuis moved on Monday, May 16, 2022, which read as follows:
That the debate be adjourned on this motion until the Committee has completed its work on Ukraine.
STATEMENT BY THE VICE-CHAIR
The Vice-Chair and the Members of the Committee made statements to recognize the work of Mr. Spengemann, the Chair of the Committee, and wish him well in his new role.
The debate on the motion continued.
A point of order was raised as to relevance.
RULING BY THE VICE-CHAIR
The Vice Chair ruled that Members are typically given a large degree of latitude when applying the relevance rule, and that the Member may continue.
The debate continued.
A point of order was raised as to the procedural admissibility of reading texts into the record.
RULING BY THE VICE-CHAIR
The Vice Chair ruled that while it is not unusual for parliamentarians to use texts for assistance in debate, it is unusual to read it for a length of time, and urged the Member to conclude.
At 5:33 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
Thursday, June 2, 2022, At 3:49 p.m., the sitting resumed.
On motion of Rachel Bendayan, it was agreed, — That Ali Ehsassi be elected Chair of the committee.
At 3:52 p.m., Ali Ehsassi took the Chair.
Garnett Genuis moved, — That the Committee establish a calendar for the remaining meetings in June.
A point of order was raised as to the procedural acceptability of having more than one substantive motion on the floor at a time, and whether or not the election of a Chair constitutes a new substantive question, therefore suspending the debate that was currently before the committee.
At 3:59 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 4:02 p.m., the sitting resumed.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that the election of a Chair does not constitute a new substantive question before the Committee, and that therefore the committee remained seized with the motion and amendment previously under debate. As the committee can only be seized with one substantive motion at a time, the motion of Garnett Genuis was inadmissible. The Chair further ruled that as the committee was seized with the motion of Dr. Fry and the amendment of Mr. Genuis, the adjournment motion moved by Mr. Genuis was improperly before the Committee, and therefore was also inadmissible.
Whereupon, Garnett Genuis appealed the decision of the Chair.
The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was sustained on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Stéphane Bergeron, Iqwinder Gaheer, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai, Sameer Zuberi — 7;
NAYS: Michael D. Chong, Garnett Genuis, Marilyn Gladu, Marty Morantz — 4.
The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Hedy Fry moved on Monday, May 16, 2022, which read as follows:
That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), given recent reports of international backsliding related to women’s sexual and reproductive health and rights, the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs undertake a comprehensive study on the global access to the full range of health services, including family planning and modern contraception; comprehensive sexuality education; safe and legal abortion and post-abortion care; laws restricting or prohibiting women’s rights to abortion, the medical and socioeconomic importance of maintaining the right to access safe abortion; and prevention and treatment of HIV/AIDS and sexually transmitted infections and what actions Canada can undertake to support women’s sexual and reproductive health and rights globally; that the committee hold no fewer than (5) five meetings; and that the committee report its findings to the House.
and of the amendment of Garnett Genuis moved on Monday, May 16, 2022, which read as follows:
That the motion be amended by deleting the words “that the committee hold no fewer than (5) five meetings”
Garnett Genuis moved, — That the Committee proceed to scheduling future meetings with respect to the study of Ukraine.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Garnett Genuis, Marilyn Gladu, Tracy Gray, Marty Morantz — 4;
NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Stéphane Bergeron, Iqwinder Gaheer, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai, Sameer Zuberi — 7.
The debate on the amendment continued.
At 5:12 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 5:26 p.m., the sitting resumed.
The question was put on the amendment of Garnett Genuis and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Stéphane Bergeron, Michael D. Chong, Iqwinder Gaheer, Garnett Genuis, Marilyn Gladu, Heather McPherson, Marty Morantz, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai, Sameer Zuberi — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
Garnett Genuis moved, — That the motion be amended by adding the words “and that this study not take place until after the completion of the committee’s studies on Ukraine, Vaccine Equity and Taiwan as well as studies on legislation sent from the House of Commons; and further that it not take place until the subcommittee on agenda and procedure submits a report prescribing the manner in which the study is to proceed;” between the words “rights globally;” and the words “and that the committee report its findings to the House”.
Debate arose thereon.
At 5:55 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
Monday, June 6, 2022, at 11:03 a.m., the sitting resumed.
Stéphane Bergeron moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “after the completion of the committee’s studies on” and “prescribing the manner in which the study is to proceed” with the words “the committee makes a decision on the studies before it on” and “specifying the manner in which the studies be undertaken”, respectively.
At 12:38 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
Monday, June 13, 2022, at 11:32 a.m., the sitting resumed.
A point of order was raised as to relevance.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that while members are typically given a large degree of latitude, the member should remain as relevant as possible.
A point of order was raised as to relevance.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that while Members are typically given a large degree of latitude, the Member should remain as relevant as possible.
Rick Perkins moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Garnett Genuis, Marty Morantz, Rick Perkins — 4;
NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe, Hedy Fry, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai, Sameer Zuberi — 7.
At 12:01 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
Thursday, June 16, 2022, at 3:38 p.m., the sitting resumed.
A point of order was raised as to relevance.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that comments should be aligned with the content of the subamendment, and asked the Member to stay relevant.
A point of order was raised as to relevance.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that the wording of the subamendment deals with a sequence of events and the calendar of studies, as well as providing instruction to the subcommittee on agenda and procedure; and therefore any debate on the substantive merits of each study listed is inadmissible.
Tracy Gray moved, — That the committee invite additional witnesses in relation to the study of Ukraine.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Tracy Gray, Garnett Genuis, Rick Perkins — 4;
NAYS: Hedy Fry, Andréanne Larouche, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai, Anita Vandenbeld, Sameer Zuberi — 7.
The debate on the subamendment continued.
A point of order was raised as to relevance.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that comments should be aligned with the content of the subamendment, and asked the Member to stay relevant.
At 5:30 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
Monday, June 20, 2022, at 11:08 a.m., the sitting resumed.
The debate on the subamendment continued.
Garnett Genuis moved, — That the committee proceed to planning future meetings on the situation in Ukraine.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Michael D. Chong, Garnett Genuis, Marty Morantz — 4;
NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Hedy Fry, Heather McPherson, Kristina Michaud, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai, Sameer Zuberi — 7.
The debate on the subamendment continued.
A point of order was raised as to relevance.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that while Members are typically given a large degree of latitude, the Member should remain as relevant as possible.
After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Stéphane Bergeron and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Rachel Bendayan, Michael D. Chong, Hedy Fry, Garnett Genuis, Heather McPherson, Kristina Michaud, Marty Morantz, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai, Sameer Zuberi — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
The question was put on the amendment of Garnett Genuis, as amended, and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Michael D. Chong, Garnett Genuis, Kristina Michaud, Marty Morantz — 5;
NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Hedy Fry, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai, Sameer Zuberi — 6.
Robert Oliphant moved, — That the motion be amended by adding the words “and that this study does not begin prior to October 1, 2022.” at the end of the motion.
By unanimous consent, after debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert Oliphant and it was agreed to.
After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Rachel Bendayan, Michael D. Chong, Hedy Fry, Heather McPherson, Kristina Michaud, Marty Morantz, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai, Sameer Zuberi — 10;
NAYS: Garnett Genuis — 1.
The motion, as amended, read as follows:
That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), given recent reports of international backsliding related to women’s sexual and reproductive health and rights, the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs undertake a comprehensive study on the global access to the full range of health services, including family planning and modern contraception; comprehensive sexuality education; safe and legal abortion and post-abortion care; laws restricting or prohibiting women’s rights to abortion, the medical and socioeconomic importance of maintaining the right to access safe abortion; and prevention and treatment of HIV/AIDS and sexually transmitted infections and what actions Canada can undertake to support women’s sexual and reproductive health and rights globally; that the committee report its findings to the House; and that this study does not begin prior to October 1, 2022.
At 1:04 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.