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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 1
Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:09 a.m. to 11:47 a.m.
Webcast

Library of Parliament
• Sarah Lemelin-Bellerose, Analyst
• Francis Lord, Analyst
Pursuant to the Order adopted by the House of Commons on Wednesday, September 23, 2020, the committee met for the purpose of electing a chair. Pursuant to Standing Order 106(2), the clerk of the committee presided over the election of a chair.

Helena Jaczek moved, — That Sherry Romanado be elected Chair of the committee.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Jaime Battiste, James Cumming, Earl Dreeshen, Ali Ehsassi, Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, Helena Jaczek, Emmanuella Lambropoulos, Sébastien Lemire, Brian Masse, John Nater, Sherry Romanado, Derek Sloan — 12;

NAYS: — 0.

At 11:15 a.m., Sherry Romanado took the Chair.

Pursuant to Standing Order 106(2), the clerk of the committee presided over the election of the vice-chairs.

Motion

Derek Sloan moved, — That James Cumming be elected as First Vice-Chair of the committee.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Jaime Battiste, James Cumming, Earl Dreeshen, Ali Ehsassi, Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, Helena Jaczek, Emmanuella Lambropoulos, Sébastien Lemire, Brian Masse, John Nater, Derek Sloan — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Emmanuella Lambropoulos moved, — That Sébastien Lemire be elected as Second Vice-Chair of the committee.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Jaime Battiste, James Cumming, Earl Dreeshen, Ali Ehsassi, Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, Helena Jaczek, Emmanuella Lambropoulos, Sébastien Lemire, Brian Masse, John Nater, Derek Sloan — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That the committee retain, as needed and at the discretion of the Chair, the services of one or more analysts from the Library of Parliament to assist it in its work.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be composed of five members; the Chair, one member from each party; and that the Subcommittee work in the spirit of collaboration.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That the Chair be authorized to hold meetings to receive evidence and to have that evidence printed when a quorum is not present, provided that at least four members are present, including one member of the opposition and one member of the government, but when travelling outside the Parliamentary precinct, that the meeting begin after 15 minutes, regardless of members present.

Motion

Helena Jaczek moved, — That the witnesses be given 10 minutes for their opening statement; that, at the discretion of the Chair, during the questioning of witnesses, there be allocated six minutes for the first questioner of each party as follows: Round one: Conservative Party, Liberal Party, Bloc Québécois, New Democratic Party. For the second and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party: five minutes, Liberal Party: five minutes, Conservative Party: five minutes, Liberal Party: five minutes, Bloc Québécois: two and a half minutes, New Democratic Party: two and a half minutes.

On motion of Emmanuella Lambropoulos, it was agreed, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “10 minutes” with the words “up to seven minutes".

On motion of Sébastien Lemire, it was agreed, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “Conservative Party: five minutes, Liberal Party: five minutes, Bloc Québécois: two and a half minutes, New Democratic Party: two and a half minutes” with the words “Bloc Québécois: two and a half minutes, New Democratic Party: two and a half minutes, Conservative Party: five minutes, Liberal Party: five minutes”.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the witnesses be given up to seven minutes for their opening statement; that, at the discretion of the Chair, during the questioning of witnesses, there be allocated six minutes for the first questioner of each party as follows:

Round one: Conservative Party, Liberal Party, Bloc Québécois, New Democratic Party.

For the second and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party: five minutes, Liberal Party: five minutes, Bloc Québécois: two and a half minutes, New Democratic Party: two and a half minutes, Conservative Party: five minutes, Liberal Party: five minutes.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That the clerk of the committee be authorized to distribute documents to members of the committee only when the documents are available in both official languages, and that witnesses be advised accordingly.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That the clerk of the committee be authorized to make the necessary arrangements to provide working meals for the committee and its subcommittees.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That, if requested, reasonable travel, accommodation and living expenses be reimbursed to witnesses, not exceeding two representatives per organization; and that, in exceptional circumstances, payment for more representatives be made at the discretion of the Chair.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That, unless otherwise ordered, each committee member be allowed to have one staff member at in camera meetings and that one additional person from each House Officer's office be allowed to be present.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That one copy of the transcript of each in camera meeting be kept in the committee clerk's office for consultation by members of the committee or by their staff.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That 48 hours' notice, interpreted as two nights, shall be required for any substantive motion to be considered by the committee, unless the substantive motion relates directly to business then under consideration, provided that one notice be filed with the clerk of the committee no later than 4:00 p.m. from Monday to Friday; that the motion be distributed to members in both official languages by the clerk on the same day the said notice was transmitted if it was received no later than the deadline hour; and that notices received after the deadline hour or on non-business days be deemed to have been received during the next business day and that when the committee is travelling on official business, no substantive motions be moved.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That, in relation to orders of reference from the House respecting bills:

(a) the clerk of the committee shall, upon the committee receiving such an order of reference, write to each member who is not a member of a caucus represented on the committee to invite those members to file with the clerk of the committee, in both official languages, any amendments to the bill, which is the subject of the said order, which they would suggest that the committee consider;

(b) suggested amendments filed, pursuant to paragraph (a), at least 48 hours prior to the start of clause-by-clause consideration of the bill to which the amendments relate shall be deemed to be proposed during the said consideration, provided that the committee may, by motion, vary this deadline in respect of a given bill; and

(c) during the clause-by-clause consideration of a bill, the chair shall allow a member who filed suggested amendments, pursuant to paragraph (a), an opportunity to make brief representations in support of them.

On motion of Helena Jaczek, it was agreed, — That all meetings of the committee, other than those deemed to be in camera, be televised or, if that is not possible, be webcast.

Motion

Brian Masse moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake all studies undertaken by the committee during the 1st Session of the 43rd Parliament, and that the evidence and documentation received by the committee during the 1st Session of the 43rd Parliament on the subject be taken into consideration by the committee in the current session.

On motion of Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, it was agreed, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words "all studies" with the words "a study of fraud calls in Canada".

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study of fraud calls in Canada, and that the evidence and documentation received by the committee during the 1st Session of the 43rd Parliament on the subject be taken into consideration by the committee in the current session.

At 11:47 a.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Michael MacPherson
Clerk of the Committee