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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 3
Thursday, October 29, 2020, 4:08 p.m. to 5:54 p.m.
In Camera
Presiding
Sven Spengemann, Chair (Liberal)

• Paul Manly (Green Party)
• Elizabeth May (Green Party)
House of Commons
• Stephanie Bond, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Nadia Faucher, Analyst
• Allison Goody, Analyst
• Billy Joe Siekierski, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

It was agreed, — That Members of the Parliament from the Green Party be invited to attend the in camera portion of the meeting.

It was agreed, — That the witness be heard in camera.

It was agreed, — That the committee move in public following the testimony of Dr. Laurence Broers.

At 4:12 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:13 p.m., the sitting resumed.

As an individual
• Laurence Broers, Associate Fellow, Russia and Eurasia Programme, Chatham House
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday October 22, 2020, the committee resumed a briefing on the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh.

The witness made a statement and answered questions.

At 4:57 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:59 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Questioning of the witness resumed.

At 5:27 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:38 p.m., the sitting resumed in public and webcast session.

Motion

Jack Harris moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study of the granting of arms exports permits and the controls, protocols and policies that inform the granting of such permits and the imposition of export freezes; that particular attention be given to any permits granted while Canada’s freeze of arms exports to Turkey that began in October 2019 was still in effect, including WESCAM sensors; that, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a) the committee order Global Affairs Canada to produce all documents, briefing notes, memorandums and emails between the department and the Minister of Foreign Affairs’ Office, the Privy Council Office and the Prime Minister's Office related to the granting of any such permits within 30 days of the adoption of this motion; that these documents be provided to the Committee without redactions except to protect Cabinet confidences; and that the committee in consultation with the Office of the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel commit to protect the confidentiality of the documents in consideration of commercial sensitivity, national security and international relations as required; and that the committee report its findings to the Houses.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Robert Oliphant moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “30 days” with the words “60 days”.

Debate arose thereon.

Subamendment

Jack Harris moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “within” with the words “as soon as possible but no later than”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Jack Harris and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert Oliphant and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee undertake a study of the granting of arms exports permits and the controls, protocols and policies that inform the granting of such permits and the imposition of export freezes; that particular attention be given to any permits granted while Canada’s freeze of arms exports to Turkey that began in October 2019 was still in effect, including WESCAM sensors; that, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a) the Committee order Global Affairs Canada to produce all documents, briefing notes, memorandums and emails between the department and the Minister of Foreign Affairs’ Office, the Privy Council Office and the Prime Minister's Office related to the granting of any such permits as soon as possible but no later than 60 days of the adoption of this motion; that these documents be provided to the Committee without redactions except to protect Cabinet confidences; and that the Committee in consultation with the Office of the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel commit to protect the confidentiality of the documents in consideration of commercial sensitivity, national security and international relations as required; and that the committee report its findings to the House.

At 5:54 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Erica Pereira
Clerk of the Committee