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Minutes of Proceedings
At 1:15 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 1:30 p.m., the sitting resumed.
Rachael Harder moved, — That, given that the deletion of section 4.1. Clause 3 of Bill C-10 would extend the application of the Broadcasting Act to programs uploaded by users of social media services which, in turn, could violate paragraph 2(b) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms;
and given that the current “Charter statement” required under section 4.2 of the Department of Justice Act with respect to the potential effects of Bill C-10 directly states that “Users of social media who upload programs for sharing with other users and are not affiliated with the service provider will not be subject to regulation” as part of its argument that Bill C-10 respects section 2(b) of the Charter; the Committee
(a) request that the Minister of Justice produce an updated “Charter Statement”, under section 4.2 of the Department of Justice Act, with respect to the potential effects of Bill C-10, as amended to date, on the rights and freedoms that are guaranteed by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms;
(b) invite the Minister of Canadian Heritage and the Minister of Justice to appear before the Committee to discuss the implications of Bill C-10, as amended to date, for users of social media services; and
(c) suspend clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-10, notwithstanding the Committee’s decision of March 26, 2021, until it has received the updated “Charter Statement”, requested under paragraph (a), and has heard from the ministers, invited under paragraph (b).
Debate arose thereon.
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 6;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Martin Champoux, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 5.
Thomas Owen Ripley and Drew Olsen answered questions.
The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.
The Committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 7 of the Bill, as amended.
At 2:27 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 2:28 p.m., the sitting resumed.
On Clause 7,
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-10, in Clause 7, be amended by adding after line 23 on page 7 the following:(h.1) any change in the ownership or control of a broadcasting undertaking carried on under a licence;
Debate arose thereon.
At 2:31 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 2:35 p.m., the sitting resumed.
Scott Aitchison moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding the words “, that is not an online undertaking,” after the word “undertaking”.
After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Scott Aitchison and it was agreed to.
Heather McPherson moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding the word “Canadian” before the word “broadcasting”.
After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Heather McPherson and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Rachael Harder, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4.
The question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Rachael Harder, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4.
At 3:02 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.